Windows 8 start glitching with High Speed Download

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by JosPhantasmE, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    Hi guys,

    I need some insight from you guys,

    Every time I start downloading something my Windows goes crazy, I can not do anything in my computer, every other thing I try to do it does it an a lagging way.

    I use IDM to manage my downloads, but it does not matter if I am using IDM or not, any type of download will do this to my system.

    My download speed goes from 4mbps to 10mbps depending from the server I am downloading.

    What I have:

    -Windows 8.1 64-bit Version 6.3 (Build 9600)
    -12 GB Ram (2x4GBDDR3 2x2GBDDR3)
    -Processor Intel Core i7-2720QM @ 2.20GHz (8 Nucleus)
    -ST2000LM003 HN-M201RAD 2000GB HD at 5400RPM (I know is slow but it should not do this, right? or am I wrong?)

    Any opinion on how I can fix this?
     
  2. jabbawok

    jabbawok MDL Novice

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    #2 jabbawok, Apr 6, 2014
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    No idea. But next time it happens, open Task Manager, go to the Details tab and click the CPU column header to sort the processes by cpu usage. You may be able to spot the process that's causing it. Are you running any third party antivirus or other real-time malware/security apps?
     
  3. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    BINGO!

    It is true that when you over think stuff you end up no where...

    Thank you my friend, my antivirus ESET Smart Security 7 was doing the damage...
     
  4. Nucleus

    Nucleus MDL Guru

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    Is your ESS v7 up to date? Been using it here with no problems at all - v7.0.302.26
     
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  5. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    Same version as yours. I tough it was a problem with Internet Download Manager, but even when I use the browser's download manager it gives me the same problem.

    I am going to change my antivirus and let you know if it was ESET's fault.
     
  6. royalesense

    royalesense MDL Novice

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    It's not your AV. It's your hdd. 5400rpm writing at 10mbps can get a bottleneck with some applications using hdd I/O.
    Try setting max download speed in IDM to 1mpbs and check for any changes, and look at task manager to see hdd I/O with/without this limit.
     
  7. jabbawok

    jabbawok MDL Novice

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    #7 jabbawok, Apr 10, 2014
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    Seriously doubt it with that drive (and system), unless it's defect.
     
  8. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    no DL's wouldn't lag a system with a 5400 HDD UNLESS as it looks like it has been figured out, the ESET was scanning as the files download then, read write becomes a lot more tremendously used than simply downloading without scanning every byte coming down the line.
     
  9. Helmutcheese

    Helmutcheese MDL Member

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    Sometimes my DL's sit at 99-100% and take ages to actually appear as a completed file in the folder, its due to ESET scanning it.

    You may need set an exception for your Web Browser or DL Manager in the ESET settings.

    10Mb/s is only 1.2MB/s even if he had 10year old HDD it would be enough as a they could read 40-50MB/s then (dependant on rpm and model).

    I can write to my ext WD My Book 3TB USB 3.0 (6k rpm) downloading @ 162Mb/s (20MB/s) without issue as drive can top 120+MB/s.
     
  10. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    My CPU usage is 5 - 10% ESET using 80% of that amount.

    My HD usage is 2 - 5% ESET and IDM using the same %.
     
  11. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    My advice would be to just not use ESET, or at least see if they have an update or beta or something that fixes the problem.
     
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  12. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    I uninstalled ESET Smart Security and Internet Download Manager. and even that when I download something trough the browser it still lags!!! What in heaven is going on!?
     
  13. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    Did you make clean install of windows 8.1 or did you update it from windows 8 ?
     
  14. l30

    l30 MDL Member

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    When u download through browser speed is low but try using Internet download manager and if problem is not solved than i will recommend to go for clean install and install latest drivers for ur network card u r all done
     
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  15. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    Clean install of windows 8.1
     
  16. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    I will try updating Network Card drivers.
     
  17. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Addicted

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    #17 Espionage724, Apr 16, 2014
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    Could be the PCI-E bus being overloaded. My laptop gets pretty unusable when transferring stuff over gigabit ethernet. I can imagine something similar happening if you have other things occurring over the PCI-E bus (gaming with intense GPU load, onboard audio, using multiple monitors and/or high resolutions, network activity, HDD activity, etc).

    Another thing to look at is to maybe try toggling offload settings. By-default, most network drivers choose to offload TCP, ARP, and UDP packets, but in some cases, it may be better to just have it on the CPU. Could also check out receive-side scaling (scales network transfer load across all CPU cores). On Realtek drivers, it's on by-default, but on Atheros, it seems it could come disabled.

    Should also verify you have proper chipset drivers present too. If using AMD, the AHCI driver and PCI bus driver may be helpful (the former isn't installed automatically in certain cases; the latter not being installed by-default on single-GPU systems). Should really just verify you have proper drivers for all hardware present. I remember a time where AMD GPU drivers would cause my mouse pointer to be laggy when there was any kind of heavy HDD load when I used multiple monitors.
     
  18. JosPhantasmE

    JosPhantasmE MDL Novice

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    OMG!!!!! Thank you! :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

    It was a problem with my chipset drivers, I reinstalled everything under chipset driver for my laptop and now everything is working like a charm!

    This was so annoying, and thanks to you it is solved.

    A MODERATOR CAN MARK THIS AS SOLVED.
     
  19. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    damn, simple I/O 101 and never thought about Chipset drivers! I like your thinking Espionage lol