Windows Rearm mystery

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by BIOSNOIDEA, May 20, 2010.

  1. BIOSNOIDEA

    BIOSNOIDEA MDL Senior Member

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    Exactly 3 identical machines purchased at the same time.
    Bios moded on all of them perfectly with SLIC 2.1 and WIN 7 installed in 2 and Vista in only one.
    All OEM activated.
    Between the 2 machines with WIN 7 one has got ASUS slic and the other Dell.
    On command prompt slmgr -dlv says clearly that they are OEM channel and activated BUT in one an extra two lines appear (the one with Dell SLIC) one line says Windows Rearm Count:3 and then the other line Trusted Time: xxxxxxxxxxx

    What could this be? I think I have used the same RTM WIN 7 disc (I have two RTM that I downloaded but cannot recall when used which or if used same for both WIN 7 Machines).
    The one with Dell SLIC has been going for more than 8 months and today I realized this difference.
    The machine with Vista is ok.

    ???????:confused:
     
  2. venu

    venu MDL Addicted

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    Dont think that dell machine is OEM activated. Are you using one of the blacklisted Dell keys?
     
  3. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    #3 FreeStyler, May 20, 2010
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    @venu
    There are NO blacklisted Dell keys!

    @BIOSNOIDEA
    The rearm count value is there by default (Should be on every system, default is 4, after initial activation is should read 3)
    Trusted Time: xxxxxxxxxxx is the date/time you executed the -dlv command
     
  4. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #4 timesurfer, May 20, 2010
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    Mine always read 4 after installation regardless of activating or not

    And it's confirmed when using InfiniteRearm4 v1.9.2 or Windows 7 Rearm Forever 2.0 there is never a need to validate online since only activation concepts require validation not trial concepts. With my trial concept there is also only one restart necessary before applying RE or PE cmd's as is said in our instructions:)

    Then my tool automatically rearms and reboots every 29 days
     
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  5. cyclops

    cyclops MDL Senior Member

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    hmm Mine always read 3
     
  6. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #6 timesurfer, May 20, 2010
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    Activating does not use up rearm and if you want all 4 rearms back just use the tools above to get back to 4 rearms

    I just tested both ODIN and Daz loader then uninstalled them both and 4 rearms still exist...lol

    p.s. I am using RTM in "repo" and have been for like 7 months

    @cyclops

    You might before use of loader check rearms with "slmgr /dlv"
     
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  7. cyclops

    cyclops MDL Senior Member

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    i use a bios mod so all is good ;p
     
  8. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    But the point of this thread is to tell how many rearms are after install and/or use of activation tool which for me is always 4.

    So you could still use cmd to test to share with us...lol
     
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  9. beamslider

    beamslider MDL Senior Member

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    I get the same thing on a desktop modded with Asus and Asus key. Windows 7 Ultimate. It is activated and has passed wat. Has been up and running activated for 3 months. Might have to do with having the WAT update installed. as the trusted time listed is the time that slmgr -dlk was run.

    I don't think you have a problem.
     
  10. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    When running Daz or ODIN WAT never took away any rearms ever for me!

    To answer this question people need to check rearms right after install of windows 7 RTM and then after use of Daz loader or ODIN and then after unistall of those activation concepts :)
     
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  11. bluealien

    bluealien MDL Member

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    Hi Timesurfer. It so happened that I read this post and while I was installing windows on a friend's laptop. I checked the rearm count prior to using Daz's loader and the count is 4. After installing the loader the remaining rearm count is now 3. I then checked 2 other computers here and both had 3 remaining rearms. One has a bios mod and the other uses Daz's 1.8 rc5, neither was rearmed after initial install and activation.

    Why do you have 4 rearms even after activation - loader or otherwise? Just wondering what is the norm? Thanks.
     
  12. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #12 timesurfer, May 20, 2010
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  13. bluealien

    bluealien MDL Member

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    What is the secret then? Why do I have 3 rearms left after using the loader or a bios mod?
     
  14. FreeStyler

    FreeStyler MDL Guru

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    Really, what does it matter???
    3 is normal, 4 is not... MS even could decide to disable systems with rearm count of 4 as this is abnormal
     
  15. bluealien

    bluealien MDL Member

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    Thanks FreeStyler. You answered my question. 3 is normal then.
     
  16. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #16 timesurfer, May 20, 2010
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    Yep it doesn't matter cause Daz and ODIN work off activation concept which only requires 0 rearms with min 1 day left...lol

    And with InfinteRearm4 you can just get back full 4 rearms anytime you want so again it doesn't matter unless you are using my trial concept with 0 rearms and 1 day left...lol

    @bluealien

    I wouldn't say it's normal cause I've heard both 3 and 4 rearms from everybody. So lets do poll...lol
     
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  17. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin
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    You would have 3 left after using a loader because it's no longer counting down. The second you uninstall the loader then the countdown will continue, that simple :)
     
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  18. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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  19. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    All windows editions had 4 rearms once. One was used by Microsoft while sysprepping the install before capturing it to the install.wim image on the dvd. At least that's what I think.
    So when slipstreaming vista (or 7) using the "install vista, install sp1, install sp2, sysprep and imagex" method you'll end up with a 2 rearm dvd I think.
     
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  20. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #20 timesurfer, May 20, 2010
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    So does that explain why I get 4 rearms with RTM install regardless of Daz Activation concept install and others get 3?

    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/19415-Windows-Rearm-mystery?p=279322#post279322
     
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