winnt.sif is there a way!!!!!

Discussion in 'Windows XP / Older OS' started by 3sidedcube, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    Hello again all @ MDL
    have ran into a small problem on a friend's computer and it has me stumped
    his machine is an old Elonex system and he has the system and recovery disk" will supply if needed to MDL admin's " but when i run it it say's an error on the winnt.sif file ...
    now I fixed it by making another winnt.sif file and it worked.. after 7 hour's 15 cup's of coffee and the internet :worthy:

    is there anyway of removing the winnt.sif file altogether without getting an error ...
    in fact is there a way not to have any answer file at all and have install attended

    then it would make my life a lot simpler in the long run

    Admin's send me pm for Elonex cd - but you will have to tell me how to upload asI have no idea on how to upload and i dont trust the megaupload site's and others...

    made a copy myself so no rush :) :biggrin:
     
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  2. kukubau

    kukubau MDL Addicted

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    No need to upload it anywhere. Just build an iso after the original cd and edit it with Ultraiso or Poweriso and replace winnt.sif with the one you you made. Save it to a new image and burn it. You can keep out winnt.sif altogether and the setup will run normal, but you'll have to enter the product key and press a few 'nexts'. I'd say you keep it as it'll make your life easier. And you don't want 7 hours of hard work thrown away, would you?:)

    Just see what's inside the old winnt.sif as it might have some lines concerning windows themes that might be on the cd. Otherwise you're safe.
     
  3. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    yes thats what i have done - but just wanted to know if it could be deleted and have no problem's or whether it's hard coded into the system when it was first done with sysprep...

    thankyou for your reply kukubau :hug2:
     
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  4. 911medic

    911medic MDL Guru

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    delete it and you will have to enter all as prompted...It is most certainly not necessary for the install.
     
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  5. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    911medic

    wish it was that simple - the winnt.sif file could not be read from when I was installing.
    so I deleted it and it was still the same. "error cannot read winnt.sif"
    then I coped the default one off the elonex cd removed the userdata and then it worked as expected :)
     
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  6. Joe42

    Joe42 MDL Novice

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    I've spent several years learning XP unattended stuff and I got pretty good at it, so I can tell you it's a fact that winnt.sif is not needed. All it does is give setup the info it's looking for.

    If you get an error without it, then there's another file making a call to it for some reason, which isn't right.

    At least you got it working. That's what counts. Good job.
     
  7. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    But if the file is not there when called for it will give you an error and will not continue to install -remember that this is not from scratch this is already sys preped recovery disk and the file winnt.sif file was corrupt so then I deleted it and then it gave me an error saying can not read or find winnt.sif ...

    anyway I did get it sorted yes :)
     
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  8. Bovski

    Bovski MDL Novice

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    You have an original Elonex disk ?
    any chance of getting 4 files

    OEMBIOS.BI_
    OEMBIOS.CA_
    OEMBIOS.DA_
    OEMBIOS.SI_

    Size 12.5 MB
     
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  9. urie

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    You should run oembios.exe first you will find it in The Windows-XP OEMBIOS Archive to see what manufactures string is in your DMI area i could have more than just Elonex strings. If it is just Elonex and you can't get oembios files just use the HP DMi tattoo cd in the stickies the download HP oembios files.
     
  10. Bovski

    Bovski MDL Novice

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    I was after the Elonex OEM files as they aren't on any of the online repositories thought it would be nice to have them released.
     
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  11. urie

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    #11 urie, Jul 30, 2010
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    All i can suggest is P.M. 3sidedcube and ask if he would upload them. Also did you actually run oembios.exe to see what manufacturer strings are there you may not need Elonex.
     
  12. 911medic

    911medic MDL Guru

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    Probably FIC if I remember correctly. FIC is (was) heavy in the education market and ELONEX used these boards for a while.
     
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  13. urie

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    911medic, hopefully we will know eventually first thing i told him was run oembios.exe mentioned it twice now :(
     
  14. Bovski

    Bovski MDL Novice

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    #14 Bovski, Aug 2, 2010
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    It's actually an MSI Board and OEMBIOS.exe comes up with nothing well its got an E:HP & Compaq OEMBIOS.cat but thats from the Disk I used to install from.

    DMI
    SYSTEM>Manufacturer Name: Elonex PLC
    Base Board>Manufacturer Name: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
    Enclosure/Chassis>Manufacturer Name: Elonex PLC

    So I'm guessing OEMBIOS.exe should have reported "Elonex PLC"
     
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  15. 911medic

    911medic MDL Guru

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    Only if the Elonex string is in the program's data and then only if the Elonex string is in the correct address range. Just because the strings are in DMI do not mean they are valid.

    Easy enough to change the string to any string valid in the DMI range (if you need to).
     
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  16. urie

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    @ Bovski, ok you have grasped the whole concept so try MSi you still did not post CRC: anyway just use HP dmi tattoo cd write HP and be done no worries.
     
  17. Bovski

    Bovski MDL Novice

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    The CRC of What ? the HP files from the Install CD ? CD4E1902

    Guys you are missing the point I know how to re-brand the motherboard but as someone had posted that they had an original Elonex CD I thought it would be nice to get the files released so they could be added to the repositories.
     
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  18. urie

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    In an ideal world yes but since the files have not been uploaded then just do what you need to do to get it working. it will never get knocked out via M$ validation e.c.t
     
  19. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    Yes i do have the 4 files that you are asking for - Do you know a way to upload to a site via private proxies or bounce of another ip addy .

    Not at all being paranoid....:biggrin:
     
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  20. 3sidedcube

    3sidedcube MDL Member

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    #20 3sidedcube, Dec 3, 2010
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    Here are the CRC check for the files


    oembios.bin CRC32: 777BA240
    MD5: 8531189D74A8373173544680A71A7BBB
    SHA-1: 38DFF02DC85D8069332103AD72385C57C5A1E354


    oembios CRC32: 81DEFFBE
    MD5: 940787F758EE2248CBF21A2CAC3299DC
    SHA-1: 1A67CFF26BC4C78A93031768DF18C6E632FFA8C1

    oembios.dat CRC32: 4569705B
    MD5: 3DA8D4480449460AE4832ED33C863F63
    SHA-1: AF01CB94E8750D15BFACFFD0542E9B3133B47C52

    oembios.sig CRC32: A8F6669E
    MD5: DBF7C02B6C8405077A4B24FC19BF5D36
    SHA-1: BE5F9FA369514015DC907E0CEFD08BE35AB72444

    OEMINFO CRC32: 4FD5F23B
    MD5: AB8B437CB0F64343B99E4751D9820C9A
    SHA-1: 986F0D32457877CA707CCFD20C41C53EDD50C88F

    OEMLOGO CRC32: 426FD0E7
    MD5: 4C3D4FF8A57353E0D99538B6E40236F2
    SHA-1: B922A2DA78CBDB759C1AFEB444514FF06432DEAD


    WINNT.SIF CRC32: 18F22488
    MD5: 5DEF696F11642110B5B026F650709AE0
    SHA-1: E3018245BF7A5B0D446866D6B116DE9851CF020B


    All files are from the oem $$ dir off the disk the last three files can be ignored
    just put them here for refference.


    Just another thought the way I did a mod was to use the original Bios from the manufacture and then use one of the bios mod tools the one for the motherboard you are using "i.e AMI or Award" and use the tool to insert any slp/slic string in the bios.
    and then use the same manufacure bios util " i.e the bios update tool for your motherboard" to put the moded file of the bios file that you created from the mod tool for inserting the slp/slic string.

    If on the other hand and you are compleatly lost with what I have said then you need to read more on this site!!!
     
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