XPx64 or Server2003x64?

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  1. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    I have read that there is very little difference between the two.

    If you have a choice between one or the other, what would you choose and more importantly, why?

    I am now ready to start using x64 but before I do I would like to get some feedback from more experienced ones about these two.my plan is to get the fullest official VLK version then use nlite and rvm to integrate drivers and addons then install on usb hdd and boot on different hardware.

    I would also like to incorporate the enhanced write filter (EWF) into this but information on that is limited.
    I have all this working with XPsp3x32 including driverpacks KTD option so that I have basically a universal image that I can boot almost anywhere and have all drivers loaded automatically and I would like to have the same except 64bit but since driverpacks does not have a XPx64 kit I may need to start with server2003x64 to do this, Im not sure yet.

    thanks
     
  2. urie

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    You would be far better making multi OEM:SLP dvd unless you have a genuine VLK key because VLK keys do get blacklisted. You've also hit your first snag straight away x64 drivers and I think you will find there is a big difference between xp and server editions.
     
  3. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    hi urie,

    if I start with multi OEM:SLP dvd, I think that after I install it on usb then boot it on different hardware it will ask to re-activate everytime, no?

    the "big difference" is better? I have server2003 32bit and it seems the differences from XP can be adjusted to be close.

    I am trying to decide which is best to start from scratch. I think since XPx64 support has ended that maybe server2003 will be better.
     
  4. urie

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    To activate via oem:SLP you need manufacturer string in DMI area in bios most branded machines will have this these pre-activate. There are Tools on forum to add SLP 1.0 string to DMI area in bios or you can request bios mod for none branded machines i,e, home or custom built. Running x64 on a machine with less that 4GB is a waist of time not worth the bother with drivers e.c.t
     
  5. Mustafa Can

    Mustafa Can MDL Member

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    I don't know why you need to install XPx64 or S2003x64 but I don't recommend it. Vista and later systems are far better on x64.
     
  6. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    yes, this is why I need VLK. when booting from USB on different hardware I want to avoid dealing with activation every time I boot on new hardware.

    if the VLK is blacklisted only after I install then I think (correct me if wrong) it would not matter.

    plan is to make a x64 usb bootable image that is universal (will boot on any hardware) I have x86 like this now and want the same from x64. later x64 OS will not work for me here.
     
  7. Tito

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    There is no WGA for x64 operating systems.

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  8. urie

    urie Moderator
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    OOOPS forgot about that.
     
  9. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    hi Tito, that is interesting.. and very good for my purposes!

    which version would you recommend for eliminating extra steps (quickest way) so that I can start the install?

    there are many, many more steps after the install in this case so if I can eliminate some before or after it would save time.

    maybe I should start with XPx64 and try 2003 later if something is not working as expected.

    I am not very familiar with either of them but from reading it seems 2003 would be better for driver compatibility and other support.
     
  10. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Really? Eval for both is exactly the same disk... so they are pretty much identical
     
  11. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    you guys are holding out on me? I could really use some of you experts advice. what would you chose for this?
     
  12. Galileo Figaro

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    Windows 7 x64 is your best option.
     
  13. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    I would not bother with anything XP any more, especially x64, Win7 x64 is best option
     
  14. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    not a single question answered yet or even an attempt made. *sigh*the off topic suggestions are disappointing. my apologies for wasting our time, obviously I was expecting too much here.
     
  15. Bytebuster

    Bytebuster MDL Addicted

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    ...guess must be missing something here? The 'off topic suggestions' as you describe them are actually well-meant comments from people trying to point out you (probably) be better off taking a different approach. ;)
     
  16. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    FOCUS People.. do you have it?I do not doubt the comments are well-meant Bytebuster. I have vista and 7 but that has nothing to do with this project @ALL. its like riding to a tire store on a motorbike and having them suggest I need four tires WTF? I already have four tires.. ON MY CAR! thats not what Im here for. sorry, its frustrating.
     
  17. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Then carry on your own, as I said, not interested in anything XP any more (that was years ago)
     
  18. urie

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    You have already been given advice not to use xp x64 especially for multiple machines you cannot get drivers for it.

    I have a multi OEM:SLP XP x86 dvd with driverpacks + OnePiece_Windows_XP_Post-SP3_UpdatePack I used RVM_Integrator_1.6 ( would not touch nlite ) and that I use for reinstalling on older systems most if you lucky will come with between 256 and 512mb ram not 4GB so also wasting time using XP x64.

    I did mention vlk keys getting blacklisted but that is on x86 systems, and if system has more than 4GB I also would be using windows 7.

    I only have one old machine running xp as OS just for the grand kids to mess about on even then I managed to get them both older laptops came with only 512mb and 1GB ram I upgraded both to 2GB max they would take and did bios mods to add SLIC 2.1 and installed Windows 7. I myself run XP in VMware if I need it.
     
  19. onetwo3

    onetwo3 MDL Member

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    and that "advise" has nothing to do with the topic or a single question Ive asked in it. thinking outside the box here, asked a few seemingly simple questions about it but the answers are coming from the box.free your mind.
     
  20. Humphrey

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    :excl: Why don't you shut it and try each for yourself seeing how you haven't liked any of the answers you've gotten here so far. :excl:
     
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