(yet another) LTSB/LTSC dilemma

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  1. x86

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  2. Enthousiast

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    All windows SKUs have telemetry and on Enterprise/Education and LTSB/C versions it can be disabled by gpo.
     
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  3. x86

    x86 MDL Addicted

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    Are you referring to the 'Allow Telemetry = Disabled' GPO? Does that really stop Telemetry altogether?
     
  4. sxhilkxdxm

    sxhilkxdxm MDL Novice

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    LTSC is pretty mature by now , should have no issues using it.
    Or else stick with Enterprise/Education if that bothers you.

    Telemetry switch to Disabled is also mentioned on MS website , Dont know if it works.
     
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  5. AeonX

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    Version 1809 has better Windows Update (without high CPU consumption when searching and installing updates and smaller size of them). It has better support for newer hardware. A few games do not run on 1607 especially those from Microsoft. Other than that I don't see any big improvements.

    Test it yourself and see which one performs better with your hardware.

    As for the memory management problem I see some comment on it but without showing evidence with the current updates so I have doubts about it. I see memory compression even though it works more often in 1809.

    About telemetry take a look at this topic:
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/repo-windows-10-telemetry-repository.63874
     
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  6. BAU

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    You are going to regret it.
    LTSC 2019 still is a poorly chopped 1809 version that was plagued by issues since the get-go and never really improved much
    (and btw still has memory management bugs for whole series of hardware, mainly pre-Haswell refresh, and probably more).
    Take my word for it that it's gonna annoy you in day to day use compared to 1607 LTSB.

    Might as well wait until 2021 for the next LTSD (branch-channel-distribution, right? :D)

    Better yet, jump to 1903/1909/2004/20H2 Education (or Enterprise)
    and never look back at these officially poorly chopped editions that offer neither performance nor privacy improvements for contemporary pc's,
    all at the expense of usability and online security.
     
  7. denob

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    I've tried both 2016 and 2019 on my retired i7-2600k and everything is working fine
    You should try both by yourself and judge by youself

    If you valued privacy, either look about telementry,in the stickied thread, or cut yourself off from the internet
    If you valued about security, build yourself an OS from the scartch

    Nobody knows what MS put since windows is a closed sources OS
     
  8. BAU

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    My answer was addressed to OP, not to insecure randoms getting butthurt from statements that may go against their LTSC cult.
    It's not that great an effort for anyone to see the current state of all windows 10 versions on their own PC, dual booting has been a thing for ages.
    But people rarely get out of their comfort zone and stick with inadequate stuff for all the wrong reasons.
     
  9. x86

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    Guys, thank you all for the input.
    Btw, no need for heated arguments - besides each of us has different needs from the OS. An overall impression is what I wanted (and I think I got it!)
    I think I ll prob be sticking with 1607. EOS is OCT 2026, so there's plenty of time for it yet.
    As I said, I not looking for 'new' features. Just stability. I d say that I m overall satisfied from 1607 on that respect. Never had a BSOD or a serious software fault so far, so I can't complain.
    Only important thing as far as software support goes, is that I m still getting driver support (especially for the GPU), which I think is not an issue. Perhaps that might have been a concern if gaming was a priority (but it's not)
    Does anyone know if Vulcan is supported in 1607? Just curious...

    As far as Telemetry goes, I think I ll never have the level of reassurance that I need (I think neither of us does!), but it's my choice to accept this risk by choosing such an OS. I am aware of that thread, and have implemented most of those mechanisms from day one.
     
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  11. sxhilkxdxm

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    Education/Enterprise should do just fine , You have powerful hardware.
     
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  12. AndyMutz

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    vulkan is a third party API, it depends on the graphics card driver and not on windows itself.
    I have my main system still on LTSB 2016 and I use it for gaming, too.
    no problems so far :)

    but I will have to upgrade my windows soon, as I want a new graphics card and nvidias drivers for turing and newer generations don't work on LTSB 2016.

    -andy-
     
  13. x86

    x86 MDL Addicted

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    OK, so as long as I stick with my 1050Ti (Pascal), I have no concerns as far as GPU support goes. I think Turing is the next one after Pascal...