2 Months Since Release - Still No Validation for 7?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by moosh101, Dec 29, 2009.

  1. Monotremata

    Monotremata MDL Novice

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    Maybe M$ is waiting to see all the workarounds MDL can come up with before finalizing it?? :D
     
  2. pkaji123

    pkaji123 MDL Addicted

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    Yeh That's What I thought Too....
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    Sorry for the long days,I was went to a camp for 15 days to forest areas,I felt really hard to miss the MDL for 15 d's,Now I am Back searching for the New things that occured btw these d's...
     
  3. Dissonance

    Dissonance MDL Junior Member

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    I think if they wanted they could release basic validation right now, but I think they're delaying for 2 reasons:
    1- to improve the effectiveness and
    2- they WANT as many people using Windows 7 as possible, including pirates.

    So far Win 7 has been getting good reviews and the general consensus is that it's much better than vista. Why not get as many people hooked on it as you can before you force them to pay?
    If they yank windows 7 tomorrow, a big chunk of people will say "oh well" and go back to whatever system they were using before. If they yank it after we've dug in and have everything installed/tuned the way we like it, then people will be more likely to pay for a key.

    My 2 cents.
     
  4. HSChronic

    HSChronic MDL Expert

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    who gives a s**t if it is released or not. If the OS is activated with SLIC BIOS and SLP key then you don't have to worry. If you are using a loader well then sucks to be you.
     
  5. pezzonovante

    pezzonovante MDL Member

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    Why? Vista Loaders always worked for me. Daz's loader and 7Loader should be fine too.
     
  6. pkaji123

    pkaji123 MDL Addicted

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    But some are facing problems with 7Loader still,If U Install Malicious Software Removal Tool,U Notice some prob's..

    Daz's Loader is working fine...

    I am sure Till SP1
     
  7. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    #27 sebus, Dec 31, 2009
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    Do not want to be pessimistic, but it would be no problem for M$ to compile a database of all known minimum version BIOS's from OEM manufacturers that had SLIC 2.1 originally. Just like the whitelist of keys

    So the WAT bit would connect to M$ servers & quickly check

    Hewlett-Packard 68YTT Ver. F.0E SLIC 2.0

    And assuming somebody modded this BIOS to 2.1 (in this case by hardware programmer only) & have the correct SLP key & certificate installed then it is "Non-Genuine"

    If there is no code in original W7 RTM to do it then it could be added in ie SP1

    sebus
     
  8. secr9tos

    secr9tos MDL Addicted

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    But this problem can be bypassed. We would need to adjust the bios vendor info like version, date and such. Although this method is completely useless if m$ creates a backup of ur bios and hash-checks it with the original.:(
     
  9. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    But it would not be Vendor issue only, it would be BIOS version issue, and that is not easy to change (if at all without any consequences)

    So ie. Asus M3N18L-ASUS-T-M3N8200-1101.ROM modified with Asus SLIC (so the vendor matches) would not pass WAT as this BIOS had only SLIC 2.0 by default (not even a need to hash compare)

    So it is possible if only M$ wanted it to happen

    sebus
     
  10. alextheg

    alextheg MDL Expert

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    HA HA HA HA ! Me too

    And so the debate continues.............

    Personally, ive had a vista loader running on the kids machine for ages now. Vista sp2 killed it and i simply removed said loader , re-installed it and oila....genuine windows again !

    Win7 on my machine is activated by a bios mod and yeah i know that if M$ really wanted to they could probably de-activate my install. Will they ? I dont know and i dont care becvause lets face it guys , there is enough expertise in and around the forums such as MDL that there will always be a workaround. Thats if it even gets to that point. I mean fair enough M$ can check your product key etc, but do they have the right to probe users computers at the Bios level. Apart from the Slic table bios really doesnt have much to do with windows and certainly isnt made by M$. So surely they should not be poking around in there ? :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :D
     
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  11. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    Of course i cannot vouch for all the BIOSes out there, but in my Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG the releasedate and version values seem to only occur in the MAIN module...namely as clear-text strings that could be easily edited with any hex editor.

    So if i did my homework right then that part should be very easy to 'fix'. If Andys tool would allow for the modules to be altered before repacking i would even try it just to see if it works. Because im almost positive that it would...
     

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  12. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    Like they care.

    Did you ever read the Vista or 7 EULA?

    If not then by all means do so...this should tell you all that you need to know about Microsofts attitude toward things like privacy etcetera.

    Dont forget: You dont own the OS, Microsoft generously lets you USE it...
     
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  13. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Of course, then there is also MSDN (AA or normal), Technet, KMS, MAK keys, new computer, Mac OS X...

    So the choices are wast

    sebus
     
  14. alextheg

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    #34 alextheg, Dec 31, 2009
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    Yes ive had a look at the EULA and i take your point. They own the operating system.......even though i / we paid for it :rolleyes:. They dont own bios. :D:D
     
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