2 small utilities for Spoon Studio

Discussion in 'Virtualization' started by a_catalin, May 20, 2011.

  1. Armagedom

    Armagedom MDL Novice

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    No, I use another virtual machine for testing with clean OS.
     
  2. a_catalin

    a_catalin MDL Member

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    Ok, but I think that those 2 virtual machines have pretty much the same "hardware" (motherboard, video card, HDD type...), isn't it?
    Once AutoCAD is activated, if you change too many computer base components it will ask to be activated again.
    When you try the virtualized AutoCAD on the real computer, it will "think" that you changed some components and ask again to be activated. But the virtualized AutoCAD can't activate well because some registry entries and/or files are missing (or perhaps it uses a service which can't be started well).
    I notified the Spoon Studio team about this a long time ago, they said they are working on it but still it's not fixed.

    Do you intend to use this virtualized AutoCAD only on your work computer or on any other computer (with your USB key/flash)?
     
  3. Armagedom

    Armagedom MDL Novice

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    Yes, It is just that. I intend to use the virtualized AutoCAD on multiple computers, including my work computer with USB flash or on native OS.
     
  4. a_catalin

    a_catalin MDL Member

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    Well, until they fix the problem in Spoon Studio you can't do much.
    What you can do:
    - you can virtualize directly on your work computer so it wouldn't ask for activation, but this will work only on this computer;
    - you can try to find a dll that "bypasses" activation.
    Also you can notify the Spoon Studio team about the problem and ask to be fixed. This way maybe they will fix it faster, who knows...:rolleyes:
     
  5. Armagedom

    Armagedom MDL Novice

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    #205 Armagedom, Apr 6, 2012
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    I can't virtualize directly on my work computer because my account is not Administrator.

    I've searched for this dll for AutoCAD 2011 or 2012 on the web, but until now could not find it. I found for AutoCAD 2010 and its portable it's OK.

    I'll notify the Spoon Studio team about the problem and ask to be fixed.

    Thank you very much, friend!!! You are an expert!:biggrin:
     
  6. johnmcloud

    johnmcloud MDL Junior Member

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    I had the same problem with 3ds Max 2012 Educational Version native x64, the licence problem and all the rest. Many hours of work and i have finally a portable version can work on 2 different PCs, but i have edit manually many registry key, sandbox, some stored .dll etc...
    There isn't a "easy way" for Autodesk software or a generic guide, the hard part was the activation licence...

    At the end, is possible but many many hard, the hardest i have tested ( Office 2010 simply not work for Spoon :D )
     
  7. Armagedom

    Armagedom MDL Novice

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    Eu ficaria muito agradecido a você se me ensinasse como eliminar a mensagem de erro de licença que é exibida quando eu rodo o AutoCAD portátil em outro computador.
     
  8. a_catalin

    a_catalin MDL Member

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    I just noticed a problem with Spoon Studio: if I start Microsoft Word from Microsoft Office (any version) using the exe generated by Spoon Studio and "winword" as parameter - when I try to close it, it doesn't close properly because of mdm.exe. But if I try with a parameter like this one <</XShellEx="@PROGRAMFILESX86@\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE">> it doesn't do that anymore.
    By the way, the use of mdm.exe by Microsoft Office was deactivated anyway when I unchecked Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Disable Script Debugging (Other) (during virtualization).

    Until they fix it I would recommend using ExeBuilder only with the default setting - "Full path to file", not "Use triggers".
     
  9. johnmcloud

    johnmcloud MDL Junior Member

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    Eh? With catalin speak english and with me spanish? :D
    I'm not spanish, and i repeat what i have say the last time:
    There isn't a guide for this, isn't easy and i don't have last version of AutoCAD for testing it. Oh, and don't have so much time.

    @catalin Ok, good to know
     
  10. a_catalin

    a_catalin MDL Member

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    Hi.
    In this recently released version they changed the encoding of the xappl files from utf-16 to utf-8.
    I will try to modify ExeBuilder so it can read from them as soon as possible.

    Regards, Catalin

    Later edit: I have modified ExeBuilder and I updated the links in the first post of the thread.
     
  11. lram32

    lram32 MDL Novice

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    #211 lram32, Sep 10, 2012
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    Thanks a_catalin for the update, I will test... I didn't know that spoon launched a new version.

    Great work a_catalin.

    anyone know if we can use the patch (Lz0) of the previous version, I ask it because I requested a trial licence for the newest version 10.4 and I saw that is different from the previous vesion 10.0

    Best Regards,
     
  12. placca

    placca MDL Novice

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    Hi a Catalin!

    I'm very much interested in the first solution.
    Could you repost the exebuilder file somewhere else, since the ones you posted earlier are no longer valid.

    Thanks,
    Regards, placca
     
  13. urie

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    Rapidshare link on first page is working.
     
  14. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Unlikely, as they changed encoding
     
  15. urie

    urie retired mod

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    Why ask such questions only takes a minute to try it, and you would have found out one from 10.0.2010.0 does work.
     
  16. a_catalin

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    Sorry for not answering faster but Yahoo Mail saw the notification email from this forum as spam.
    Good thing that I'm periodically checking the spam folder :rolleyes:

    The rapidshare link does work. I updated the other 2.
     
  17. johnmcloud

    johnmcloud MDL Junior Member

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    Why this guys of Spoon never ( i say NEVER ) make a changelog of they new released version?
     
  18. johnmcloud

    johnmcloud MDL Junior Member

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    #218 johnmcloud, Sep 28, 2012
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    Catalin there is a problem with the new version and the file .dat
    Spoon automatically reneame the file .dat in .dat.exe

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    I have try many time, and you cant change it in the Output Screen manually ( try to delete the .exe but nothing change )

    I think the only solution is add an option to ExeBuilder for change the name/path
    Code:
      <OutputLocation value=".." />
      <OutputFile value="Test.dat.exe" />
      <ProjectType value="Application" />
    </Configuration>
    
    I have manually edit the file .xappl and work, but i prefer to don't do this every time.
    Code:
      <OutputLocation value=".." />
      <OutputFile value="Test.dat" />
      <ProjectType value="Application" />
    </Configuration>
    
    Let me know if you have the same problem with this new Spoon Studio version, and if yes please add this option to ExeBuilder
    Thanks ;)
     
  19. a_catalin

    a_catalin MDL Member

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    #219 a_catalin, Sep 28, 2012
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    The solution is to choose "all files" first and then to write the name. If you edit the output name then write name.dat again even if it's written already.
    If you write the name and then choose "all files" it will not work.
     
  20. johnmcloud

    johnmcloud MDL Junior Member

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    LOL, you have right, i don't remember the previus version had this problem, anyway work.