2009-2010 Buying Guide of motherboards, OEM PC's that are bios mod "friendly" Alternate thread title: 2009-2010 Guide of which motherboard manufacteres, OEM's to stay away from. Hello all, For the guys who come here everyday... Here's the deal. Throughout my life it seems like I always end up with "problematic" items. (As it applies to bios modding I have several Intel motherboards that use the EFI bios scheme that are un-modifiable.) If I had known, I would have not purchased those units. Because of such I am like many others are considering purchasing some new motherboards, and/or considering purchase of some new PC's. (Most likely I will be building, Newegg more than likely being the vendor.) ******************************** Reason for this thread: A MINI-GUIDE of things to look out for when buying a board/new PC. (As it pertains to the bios being modifiable.) EG: Checklist /listing of things to watch out for BEFORE buying a new board/PC. In short a listing a motherboard manufacturers /PC manufacturers that are known to use a... "user friendly" bios. (EG=Bios can be modded) Info on boards/PC's to stay away from. Info on what bioses and good, and which are bad. I figure this would: A: Help those in the market to make a informed purchase. B: Helps us in the *long run. (*Manufacturers only make what they can sell. If for example they have one product branch that makes a product that is popular because it is known to be easy to mod, and another product branch that is known to be "locked-down" and cannot be modded the easy to mod units will usually outsell the locked-down units. Long term result of this is manufacturers will terminate production of locked down units..) QUESTIONS: When purchasing... (As it pertains to a bios being modifiable) : A: What should a prospective buyer be looking for?... B: What are the telltale signs that the bios is modifiable when reading thru product descriptions /specs? (xyz chipset /bios=Good?, yzx chipset /bios=bad?) C: Which manufacturers use "user-friendly" modifiable bioses? D: What bioses are the most "mod" friendly? (Mod friendly meaning tools are available, and the bios is not modded on a case by case basis) E: If you were to have a choice, which bios would YOU be looking for if buying?... In other words how would you rate the different bioses on the difficultly of modding? Award easy? Intel EFI bios impossible? F: Which bioses take modding well, which have side effects? FLIP SIDE: What current /recent production motherboards /motherboard manufacturers /complete PC's should we be staying away from? Are there certain chipsets /bioses or manufacturers to stay away from? (EG: INTEL MOTHERBOARD=EFI BIOS cannot be modded at all? Phoenix bioses having to be modded on a case by case basis? :Late model DELL, HP's?) ************ I'll start with some to stay away from: Intel (most) from 2004 forward? Intel D955Xcs (2004?) EFI BIOS Intel D865GL (2004?) EFI ? BTW: Are ALL Intel boards these days shipping with EFI BIOSES? Is there a certain chipset, or feature that is , or is not on boards that can /cannot be modded? I ask because Newegg you can search via chipset, etc to narrow search results. . Notes: OEM name=Board made by Dell= Foxconn, Intel HP= Asus Toshiba BIOS has Toshiba, Phoenix, Insyde 3 brands .