[4Fun:] The reason, why IE11 will be marked as deprecated in W10...

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by moderate, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. moderate

    moderate MDL Guru

    Aug 31, 2009
  2. bchat

    bchat MDL Smart Azz

    Nov 7, 2008
    I will wait until the final version is in before making yes/no decision. However, there are several areas that currently concern me, Updates is one of them, I'd like more control, hope it comes once we are on the RTM version.

    I never use IE, so it is of little or no concern to me. However, if they come up with an ad-block adaptable browser, I'd give it a shot. I'd prefer not to have to install another browser, Chrome being my choice today.
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  3. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

    Sep 4, 2009
    IE sucks, so they want to bury the brand but still have a browser.

    To this very day, and today, the ghosts of IE8 and 9 torment me, because they don't support jack s**t and don't work like anything else, especially IE8. Develop in Chrome, almost never any issue in FF or hell even Safari of all things. Old IE -> Site FUBAR.

    Sounds like this will have extensions, but why bother using it if you've gone Chrome or FF? They'd have to make something seriously good to steal back all those users. People who have switched, probably did because they know MS browser sucks, or got whatever browser someone else set them up with and believe it to literally BE THE INTERNET.
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    MELERIX MDL Addicted

    Nov 7, 2011
    Spartan = Modern/Metro IE (renamed and with small changes in the UI).
  5. sevenacids

    sevenacids MDL Addicted

    Aug 17, 2012
    I'm eager to check out Spartan just to know if you can run multiple instances of it, something that is currently impossible for a Metro/Modern/Universal/Store/<YouNameIt> app.

    A little off-topic, but concerning "Metro": Well, they started this whole Windows Runtime API with Windows 8, now there's no going back. Looking at and thinking about it, the whole Windows development platform (consisting of Win32, .NET, and WinRT) has become a complete mess, due to the restrictions put upon each part of it. For example, if you write a traditional Win32 application, you cannot use certain WinRT APIs and vice versa. The same is true for .NET. The WinRT XAML stack is native but is only available to apps and lacks a lot of the features that make WPF really powerful, but WPF is pretty much done and will be phased out sooner or later in favor of WinRT, despite the recent announcements of the WPF team. Further, there's stuff in Win32 that is not available in WinRT/.NET and vice versa...

    Maybe in the long term, WinRT will go the route of .NET - desperately trying to replace Win32 but finding it a hard nut to crack. But who knows. I just can't imagine anybody writing a serious application based on it.
  6. yann2

    yann2 MDL Novice

    Mar 9, 2015
    I find it interesting that MS is pursuing a clean new browser project. It could turn out nice, it has to be to get the discerning users that currently use FF or Chrome, etc.

    Using FF Beta stream here (both 32 and 64 bit versions), after losing patience with Chrome's unbound appetite for memory and resources. Not looking back to Chrome, but looking forward to trying out Spartan. And yes, it will need to have extensions, like the competition. :)