Not to forget to mention that also the Apps used must be 64bit if they should work with available memory!
I wrote: And that were what I was meaning: that the use of 64bit Apps are needed IF the work should be done using the full available memory! I didn't wrote that with 64bit OS also the Apps must be 64bit! Sure, every body know (incl. me), that Windows 64bit is working with 32bit Apps, nobody and neither me deny that.
Maybe somebody already mentioned this... ...as there is no (Intel) CPU with NX support what doesn't support EMT64 (x64) at the same time, there is no reason for installing x32 variant of W8 (maybe missing x64 driver for legacy equipment). I wonder, why x32 variant of W8 even exist...
Who is talking here that 32 app can be installed on 64bit os or not? Threat is to get more than 4GB on 32bit & my reply is regarding usability of that seen memory on 32 bit OS with those tools. 64bit OS memory management is different So " that the use of 64bit Apps are needed IF the work should be done using the full available memory!" is not right. Under 64bit os if you have app(32bit) that can stress/consume whole 32bit addressable space(4GB) & you have 14GB usable RAM then you can run 3-4 instance of same app & after 4th or 5th error be there... On 32bit OS with PAE, its different...
OK, to be clear, I wrote and later colored and bold the word IF to pint to what I was talking: the "turning" point to maybe need or not need a 64bit Apps! My 2. post were just to pinpoint to what I was meaning because you quote with cut and also bold the text I had written out of context. So, now I have an file with 9GB to work with! What do I need? If I'm not wrong I would need a 64bit OS AND a 64bit Apps for to edit/work with that file. Correct me if I'm wrong!
I have 7 GB ISO files & works well on 32 bit OS with 32bit App. Its all depend on App that will handle that 9GB file, How much memory is required to open/work with that file matter, simply size doesn't. SQL server DB size is 150GB, working well on 32 bit os for current operations. Memory requirements are less here. Memory requirement is decision maker for need of 64bit or 32bit. Here quote from M$ to understand. File size is not a thumb rule for decision making... When 64bit was not comman & was for high end operations only even that that time file sizes grow to hundreds of GB. 32 bit databases are examples to handle those big files...
The biggest file we're using at customers place have an filesize of nearly 6GB and it's an Excel 2010 file whit a lot filters etc included. That works on Excel 64bit only since that file reached 1.7GB 1½ year ago. Since moved to Excel 2013 64bit, it works much more stable and, if the complete filtering process started, also much more stable. The later was an handicap in Excel 2010 64bit, the filtering process were taken ages and the computer had to be untouched for the time being. As I told many times already, I'm not a Gamer I mainly work with Business Applications and in that regard, I could only suggest, if bigger Data Files are used to move to 64bit, even if it's possible to use 32bit! Just to note: While using the huge Excel Worksheet, the memory used is above 90% from 32GB!!
PAE switch is as old as dirt and can actually hurt performance is many cases. Total waste of time IMO, Windows 32bit cannot use 4+GB of memory fully period. 64bit is not exactly new and if you really need old 16bit apps to run use Win 7 64+ XP Mode.
Maybe you should explain why telling that?! Without to know the correct figures, the only thing you could "safely" say is that you didn't know because you even didn't know in which way Excel is used by my customer, what kind of data are used in that Worksheet and, and, and!
The wrong way, dude, the wrong way. There are things that don't need an explanation. If you see s**t coming out of your toilet, you know something is wrong, for example.
@TMC don't try to fix this you are getting your hands dirty & finally result will be zero... Stories & Stories only...
I confirm the tool WORKING on hp touchsmart laptop with following specifications: windows 8.1 Enterprise 32bits, processor AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core mobile RM-74 2.20 GHz Installed ram 4gb ddr2, after installation windows, avalaible ram was 2.75gb from 4gb... Used the tool, run it with administrator rights, i used the first of the 3 options offerd: " Install on System Boot disk as MBR Boolkit " Then said that it was installed, and ask me to reboot. After reboot i have 3.75gb available ram from 4gb ! I am happy and thankfull to the poster!
Total BS, it cannot be done apart from the "hack" PAE switch and PAE has downsides to it. Nearly as bad as the claim XP would get a hacked DX10 (Alky Project) which ended up a con to preorder games at end up. Edit, did not realise this is same dumb thread I replied to back in Feb, some n00b revived it on his 1st post here (prob the ops sock puppet account).
Hi All! Just to say that a new version of x86 Memory bootkit is available at "www . saferbytes . it / 2013 / 02 / 28 / saferbytes-x86-memory-bootkit-new-updated-build-is-out /" It is not still compatible with Windows 8.1 but I can work on it if needed... Hope that this help! Andrea
If you are using an x86 machine, you will most likely not use anywhere near 4gb of ram. If you do, you're doing it wrong and you should uninstall a LOT of stuff immediately. The most I've ever seen an x86 program use, even with Large Address Aware flag and highly modded, was 1.2GB. You seriously need to re-examine your priorities if you think a mod like this is going to be good to use.