90's mega query thread

Discussion in 'Application Software' started by 90, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. tmf2

    tmf2 MDL Junior Member

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    IMO as long as their are many distros , people actively working on them and remaining open source I think its not too much to get worried about Linux heading to the dark side. :biggrin:


    Dennis
     
  2. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    There is no way to delete Zeitgeist without breaking the Unity Launcher. Once broken it is like losing the Start menu, every software must be run from Terminal prompt.
    The suggestions of moving to a different Linux distro do not help. Tried Mint and Debian, both full of bugs and weird sht happening without any explanation. Like the shell messing up, network not connecting until manual reset, thumbnails needing root access, keyboard freezing and flashing.
    Might need to go back to Windows.
     
  3. tmf2

    tmf2 MDL Junior Member

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    Wow sorry to hear about your bad experiences, I have had the opposite experience Mint and Debian I found to be pretty much rock solid....playing with arch now. :eek:
     
  4. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    How to make PC hardware immune to USB hacking?

    Hackers can change the USB firmware in hardware, undetected by antivirus software which have no access to the firmware.
    I keep reading and find no way to stop the USB hacking, other than lame advice like "do not let strangers plug in unknown USB devices to your PC".
    Is there a PC type that has firmware verification to make sure no nasties from hackers are hiding in the firmware?
     
  5. SOCRATE_MMXII

    SOCRATE_MMXII MDL Expert

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    That "lame advice" is the best advice. ;) Would you give your house key to a stranger? :eek:
     
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  6. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    It is lame because I buy USB based hardware from online stores all the time, and have no way of knowing if someone else had infected it before it got to me. All it takes is 1 infected USB device to infect all your USB devices you use after. The advice forgets you become the "stranger" after you are infected without you knowing.
     
  7. SOCRATE_MMXII

    SOCRATE_MMXII MDL Expert

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    Well, that's a risk you have to take. The USB devices can also be infected from the factory itself, so...depends who you trust.
     
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  8. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    USB device can be infected from factory. From store. From customer returning an infected device which infects the factory or store. Everyone is a "stranger" when it comes to plugging USB device in your PC.
    There is USB storage device called IronKey which is immune to firmware hacking. But it costs too much and does not protect other USB devices.
    Which PC hardware is immune to firmware hacking?
     
  9. Ace2

    Ace2 MDL Expert

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    #49 Ace2, May 15, 2016
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    Disable zeitgeist:

    Code:
    sudo mv /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop-inactive
    rm ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
    mkdir ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
    rm -rf ~/.local/share/zeitgeist
    
    zeitgeist-daemon --quit
    cd /usr/bin/
    sudo mv zeitgeist-daemon zeitgeist-daemon.bak
    sudo mv zeitgeist-datahub zeitgeist-datahub.bak
    
    
    Extra cmds:
    
    sudo rm -f /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.zeitgeist.fts.service 
    sudo rm -f /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.zeitgeist.service
     
  10. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    AFAIK, other than reverse engineering the firmware, there is no way to secure a USB device. There may be some elaborate system designed to do that, but I haven't seen it.

    None that I know of, or that I'd pay for.
     
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  11. sml156

    sml156 MDL Member

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    #51 sml156, May 15, 2016
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    You could disable read write access to removable drive's with a group policy, Kind of drastic though.

    Code:
    gpedit.msc
    Code:
    User Configuration \ Administrative Templates \ System \ Removable Storage Access \ All Removable Storage classes:Enable
    Block USB drive via Group Policy.png
     
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  12. LiteOS

    LiteOS Windowizer

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    #52 LiteOS, May 15, 2016
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    Maybe login as user could protect the OS from getting infected
    and run cmd / format tool as admin
    to clean and full format it can remove any infecting viruses

    or use windows PE to format with hdd unmounted
     
  13. tmf2

    tmf2 MDL Junior Member

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    #53 tmf2, May 15, 2016
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    Thanks for the post most useful !
     
  14. Mayjoko

    Mayjoko MDL Junior Member

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    #54 Mayjoko, May 15, 2016
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    I always reformat my device to two different file systems when it's been plugged into another system... pretty sure that wouldn't help with firmware hack though. :weep:


    o_Oo_Oo_O

    I ordered a new usb stick from amazon... :death:

    I'll tell you what we need, a device you can plug into that reinitializes firmware. :g: :tasty:
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #55 Enthousiast, May 15, 2016
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    You're not talking about storage usb hardware i think? When it's about usb audio, wifi dongles (even for storage usb) etcetc... check if the packaging seal still is intact, if you don't trust the (licensed) sealer then don't buy it anymore :)

    After you bought it from a trusted vendor and the seals were intact, the "lame" advice is really the best advice...
     
  16. trungpt

    trungpt MDL Addicted

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    More info are needed :D
     
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  17. vebuntu

    vebuntu MDL Novice

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    from what i've read about Zeitgeist in the internet correct me if i am mistaken,it's an indexing service for unity and gnome but i am not really sure if it's sending some information to canonical
     
  18. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    #58 90, May 16, 2016
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    (OP)

    I prefer to remove Zeitgeist not just disable. How can you be sure disabling it really stops it logging?
     
  19. 90

    90 MDL Member

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    When in doubt it is prudent to assume the worst
     
  20. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    #60 R29k, May 16, 2016
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    Code:
    zeitgeist-daemon --quit
    sudo apt-get --purge autoremove zeitgeist zeitgeist-core zeitgeist-datahub && sudo apt-get autoremove
    That works on Elementary, should work on Ubuntu, haven't gotten around to playing with Ubuntu MATE 16.04 yet.
     
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