abbodi1406's Batch Scripts Repo

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  1. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    I think this "slowness" will occur with any checkpoint LCUs reinstallation with cleanup
    because it always try to generate files for all baseline LCU regardless
     
  2. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Expert

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    #3162 Paul Mercer, Aug 26, 2024
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    I prefer to skip NetFx3, file size matters

    this is because Local Experience Pack installation triggers LCU reinstallation
     
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  3. Javac75

    Javac75 MDL Member

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    I prefer skip Cleanup but don't remove the manual cleanup (Cleanmanual).
     
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  4. Clusterhead

    Clusterhead MDL Novice

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    I agree with @Paul Mercer's comment.

    Quite apart from that, this topic will probably keep us busy, in one way or another, for some time to come!?

    Because, as MS writes in a blog post:
    "We're excited to continue optimizing the delivery of continuous innovation in Windows 11 with new cumulative checkpoint updates. As early as the end of 2024, you will automatically receive this optimization on all devices running Windows 11, version 24H2 or later, as well as on Windows Server 2025."

    https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...11-checkpoint-cumulative-updates/ba-p/4182552
     
  5. Jens1976

    Jens1976 MDL Novice

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    In my opinion, you should skip the cleanup. The chance that MS will add something is simply too great. Previous tests have shown that if you skip the cleanup, the converter runs through (without 90% CPU load)....
     
  6. Paul Mercer

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    you are forgetting that there are now 3 LCUs and the wim size is significantly larger, if you need that legacy nfx35 stuff then config your settings and enjoy 9 Gb. install.wim

    nfx35 is useless, update your software

    Actually, it's better to check if nfx35 is enabled in the msft iso, I bet it's not, so it's obvious which variant is more correct
     
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    #3167 Jens1976, Aug 26, 2024
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    It's not about the stupid NetFx. The tests have shown that the converter causes fewer or no problems at all if you leave out the cleanup. Apart from the problem that you can't install any more LCUs later in the installed system...
    If you clean up, too much is deleted and the chance increases that something is going wrong. It's better to stay on the safe side than having to constantly tinker with the system.
     
  8. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Expert

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    There are literally no problems in all tests with cleanup without "stupid NetFx"

    This is not about cleanup, it's about cleanup+nfx35

    Nfx35 is the main issue here, it's not needed in 2024 year
     
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  9. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    regardless cleanup, multi-LCU reinstallation seems to always generate the files for all of its baseline LCUs
    and this is very unneeded hustle

    on the other hand, cleanup will also cause issues for the multi-LCU reinstallation, whenever it's needed (added FOD, enabled feature...)
     
  10. Paul Mercer

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    But again, this is not about cleanup in general, it's about cleanup+netfx35 combo

    It should be much simpler: if nfx35 is not enabled in the MSFT ISO, you should skip it in any case
     
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    Clusterhead MDL Novice

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    #3171 Clusterhead, Aug 26, 2024
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    Normally I only compile Multi Edition ISOs. But due to the lively discussion here, I just started a test with the 26120.1330 PRO + LXP Workaround + Cleanup. WITHOUT NetFx integration. I would like to know whether this installed ISO will then fetch and install the subsequent update via Windows Update. And / or whether an LCU can be installed manually. This has also not worked with some attempts, but may take some time, hardware is not particularly fast..
     
  12. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Expert

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    Tbh, it's not fair to test this stuff on Dev channel updates, msft could fix that 90%+ cpu usage bug and all other stuff
    All we have now is single lcu on RP channel
     
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  13. Clusterhead

    Clusterhead MDL Novice

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    Well, that can also be tested. While I'm at it....:)
     
  14. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Expert

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    Yes but the results could be different in the future, 24h2 simply wasn't even GA yet, and we don't have checkpoint updates on RP channel

    At this moment they are avoiding checkpoint updates for some reason
     
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  15. Clusterhead

    Clusterhead MDL Novice

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    Yes, I'm aware of that, but where else do you want to start for the moment?
     
  16. Paul Mercer

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    #3176 Paul Mercer, Aug 26, 2024
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    I prefer to do not rush with w10ui and uup-converter updates and wait for the first checkpoint update on rp or retail channel
    Current situation is a pure mess

    Dev tests may still be useful if no problems are discovered, chances that they break something are lower in this particular case
     
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  17. Clusterhead

    Clusterhead MDL Novice

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    I can agree with that. And confusion is a “friendly” way of putting it.
    Well, let me put it this way: I've now become curious and since I haven't tested it so extensively yet, it could at least be an interesting experience.
    (Maybe just for me? Maybe not!?)
     
  18. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    I think the issue with cleanup will occur with any other FOD, not NetFx itself
     
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    CleanUp.
     
  20. Clusterhead

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    #3180 Clusterhead, Aug 26, 2024
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    @abbodi1406 @Paul Mercer
    26120.1330 created with converter v108, cleanup, LXP workaround and WITHOUT NetFx.....

    First surprise: Could not boot from the stick. The problem could be solved by copying the install.wim to an old 26100. After that the ISO boots as usual.
    Installation without any special features.
    Manual installation of KB5041872 fails. No reasons given.
    Next comes the 26100.1457 PRO.....

    EDIT:
    In contrast to the first ISO, 26100.1457 could be created and installed without any problems. Also created with converter v108, cleanup and WITHOUT Netfx. Only the LXP workaround was omitted as it was not needed. And the .msu KB5041865 could be installed manually without any problems. So far no problems could be detected.