Why buy a ferrari when a mini will do? Im trying to create a simple system, cheap board, 4c cpu with igpu, single stick of ram, sata ssd and a hdd storage drive.
There are 2 apus due but they aint true 3000, they are the older 12nm designs, tweaked, possibly soldered. Someone delidded a test example. True 3000 apus will probably be early next year like the Raven Ridge was. I heard a rumour that Intel may start officially supporting ddr4 3200 ram. A 4c/4t @3.7ghz, 3200 ram, better igpu, 65w tdp, soldered, i would consider it.
Honestly, I never even knew about AMD's new processors until just before Computex...and had it not been for Intel scrapping Windows 7 on the Z390 chipset, I would probably have gotten an 8700K. I don't need anything too fancy....but having a 4790K i wanted to at least match that performance level. But, like you. I do like a low TDP. I even noticed that 9300 has another variant ("F"-series....or "T"....I forget) with a 35W TDP. I think they disabled HyperThreading to do that.
I prefer a medium, 65w tdp because homes are not built with cold rooms for computers, have the heating on and your pc is drawing in hot air. I like blow down coolers and there arnt that many about. Get a big powerful tower cooler and ive seen pictures of boards bent like bananas when the board is mounted horizontally. If its mounted vertically then the board is being pulled by the weight and that cant be good. Water and electrickery dont mix so that rules out water cooling. So my choices are somewhat limited, 65w or thereabouts, a decent blowdown cooler that dont weigh a ton or cost the earth. Luckily 65w chips are powerful enough for me. I switched over to the 8300 (62w) yesterday full time and with a tweaked ltsc its running great.
All In One water coolers have gained much in the last couple years and they do not leak like the earlier dyi water cooling did back then. They have now earned a reputation for reliability today (as far as not leaking). If your one that likes to push the limits on overclocking then a water cooling system is a must, and those AIO's today make it very simple to do... with the right case to handle a radiator (many newer cases already do)
My first AIO was the Thermaltake (v1) Big Water. I have found that AIOs typically today are not better than the best air coolers. Where they excel is in space savings...such as a small form-factor build. Another big allure is what raleigh_otter pointed towards: they don't place massive weight-stress on the motherboard. The downside is....in comparison, the air cooler typically will last forever. However, if I was cooling one of the new 16-core (and maybe 12-core) cpus, I would recommend against an AIO and instead use a custom water loop...as an AIO would likely not do the job.
OFFICAL (POST-E3 CONFERENCE) AMD Release World's first 16-core gaming CPU Ryzen 9 3950X 72 MB CACHE BASE CLOCK BOOST CLOCK 4.7GHz TDP 105W $749 (Releasing in September)
And 749GBP i bet regardless of exchange rates. I fancy a pentium gold for 62gbp for pc no 2 , h310 board for 51, got 4gb ram already here.
450usd for how much difference? Plnty of decent air coolers that will cope with 105. AMDs Wraith coolers for fm2+ cope with 125w from a 7890k and they aint bad coolers. Hang on, did you say 1700? Hells teeth, 951 Brand loyalty is one thing but being bent over and given a dry shagging and then saying thank you for it is another. Apple fanatics spring to mind.
Grapevine says the 3200g and 3400g are using a high quality metal tim. Doesnt say if thats a metal paste or solder but someone did delid a test apu and it was soldered so just wait n see. The 3200g and 3400g have a max supported ram speed of 2933 like the 2000 series, the 3000 cpus are showing 3200 max supported(AMD product pages). I'll wait for the 33xx apus to land and see what intels responces will be in the coming months.