AMD RYZEN Comparative with Intel CPU

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  1. Hadron-Curious

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  2. Tiger-1

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    NO stay worried dude, someone can win this dream of pc trust me who know may me or you as Imperator Caesar tell: the luck is throw :biggrin::p
     
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  3. Joe C

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    You will have to install Windows 10 on your new Ryzen pc, because Linux will also be supported too. If I do go back to AMD in the future, and I would like too at some point....it'll have to be a linux set up if Windows does not change it methods
     
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  4. Tiger-1

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  5. Hadron-Curious

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    I have read some reviews which aren't so good about Ryzen 7 1800X but I am still looking forward to buy it. It is cheap, modern and worth the price.
     
  6. Space Dandy

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    I have read you can use windows 7 on ryzen..something about installing USB drivers...
     
  7. Tiger-1

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    yep I also already see something in anywhere, seem that some dude made one "patch" using reverse enginering :g:but you know as M$ is :rolleyes:
     
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  8. CHEF-KOCH

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    The problem about this patch is that it not works in memory or gets re-patched after every restart, means when you accidently installed an update which breaks this you might get stuck at the next reboot. It's not an good solution because now you need to review each single update which is for one person a mission impossible.

    A proper solution would be in-line patch so that no matter if it gets patched by MS the thing get an re-apply after a reboot. Another problem is that the driver could be patched to disallow this. It's matter of time.
     
  9. Joe C

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    Of course you can install Windows 7 on a Ryzen and also the Kaby Lake cpu's.
    It's just that Microsoft won't give you updates if you do
     
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  10. Space Dandy

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    Apparently there's a work around for that too.
     
  11. Tiger-1

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    Hi Hadron-Curious I believe that is unecessary talk something LOL looks awesome of course, still I'm not a fanboy I'm one simply user :p thanks for very interesting presentation :D
     
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  12. Hadron-Curious

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    Hehehe... If you are from a developing country where working for money is not so easy to come by you would realise that to have quality products at cheap prices is important. It is the reason I am so much interested in the Ryzen 7 1800K processor. Not actually about fanboy thing, which, I think is more of a cliché but about the quality in relationship to the price for the ordinary man on the street..
     
  13. Tiger-1

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    To Hadron-Curious yep I agree completely with you :good3:
     
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    Tiger-1 and Hadron-Curious,

    Ryzen 5 1600X, 6 core 12 thread, 3.6 ghz. £239 at scan pc's. Same out of the box speed as the 1800X, so the actual core per core performance should be the same and 75% of its total performance for half the price(nearly). £239 v £459.

    The 1600 is 3.4ghz and includes the Spire cooler, £203. 1600X doesnt.

    It doesnt have to be a fanboy thing. Its about what you can afford. Cant afford the intel 1000usd models? Go for the Ryzen 1800X. Cant afford the 1800X, go for the 1600X(which doesnt come with a cooler). If the 1600X is a bit over your very tight budget, and do forget you have to add the additional cost of a cooler, get the 1600 with the included Spire cooler. 2 channel 2400 ram, put it all together and get on with your chosen tasks.

    For you Tiger-1, with the A10-7850, 4 core, 3.7ghz stock speed, i would, going on what you have now, imagine you would go for a Ryzen apu, 4 core 8 thread, around 3.5/3.6ghz(i7 territory) You will see improvements because of architecture, the additional 4 threads, gains because of increased memory speed, bung windows on a sata3 or nvm-e ssd. CPU is just one piece of the puzzle. Combine all the gains you will get, i think you will be very happy with the end result. :)

    Low wages arent just limited to developing countries. The cost of living is high in developed countries. :(
     
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  15. Tiger-1

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    To wyatt23 Hi Welcome to MDL :welcome: dude I like very much your post you have good vision when talking about CPU's without fanboysm; still I'm very happy with mine although before I bought several members here tell me for wait new Ryzen but I'm a poor man so unfortunately my only option are AMD A10 7850 also very good I don't need until now make overclock same using hard applications for example Blender or Maya and related to games my gpu is one simple RX 460 4GB (RX480 8GB here is more or less US$600,00 ;) ) but for several games that I like NO issues here in Brazil have two "modus vivendi" or I'm rich or I'm poor I prefer poor but honest instead rich and thief and into the "domicile jail" is end of the world!! ;)
     
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  16. wyatt23

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    I have been using amd since i built my 1st ever pc with a barton core athlon 2500 on an abit mobo with via chipset/graphics. Out of choice really, amd always gets the job done, it just may be slower. AMD being a proper alternative to intel is good for everyone, perhaps the intel fanboys should realise that. I will use whatever suits my needs and budget, if only intel would go back to using solder instead of colgate. :)
     
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  17. Tiger-1

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    sometimes I stay thinking why AMD or same Intel yet don't release processors x128 or x256 bits and multi-cores :g:hehe maybe when I travel for stars (died) lol
     
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  18. Hadron-Curious

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    Yesterday I went to computer market to search for Ryzen 7 1800X and I couldn't find it. The only person who had one said he sold it at 10% well above the retailing price.