Question for the Experts Part 4 Medic, you reign supreme as i realize I know bubkas compared to you. All I know is since 2007/2008 using My asus MB together with Dasumo's bootloader allowed "activation" without any machine ever loosing that activation If I use My Gigabyte MB with the Modded F4 bios from this forum, do a fresh install of vista, It will say windows "need to be activated" UNTIL I apply the Dasumo bootloader...then it says "activated" It cant say Windows activated unless dasumo is applied, right or wrong? Sorry to appear ignorant, but obviously I am...Oh what is VL? Jeff