Bypass Windows 7 Extended Security Updates Eligibility

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  1. abbodi1406

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  2. JollaBolla

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    I was still on BypassESU v9. 2021-03 monthly rollup and malicious software removal tool were offered through Windows Update and installed fine. WU does not see a .net framework update.
     
  3. alzcoew397

    alzcoew397 MDL Member

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    It's been a weird Month with the Updates, however all the updates installed manually successfully.Thanks Team!
     
  4. oldie#1

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    What does KB4600944 v2 have that v1 doesn't have?
     
  5. Fetzerator

    Fetzerator MDL Novice

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    Am I missing something? Microsoft pulled the .NET updates for this month, right? Why is the last 4 pages full of people still trying to install them?

    Doesn't the fact that Microsoft pulled them indicate that maybe we should NOT install them? Or is there more going on here than I'm seeing?
     
  6. abbodi1406

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    They did not pull them completely

    at first, they created totally new version of .NET Rollups that contain v2 of .NET 4.x updates
    Code:
    2021-03 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework for Windows 7 (KB4579977)
    2021-03 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework for Windows 7 (KB4603002)
    you get both new rollups offered even if you have v1 installed

    but this caused some detection confliction (for KB4579977), so they pulled them

    then, they added v2 of .NET 4.x updates to the old .NET Rollups
    Code:
    2020-10 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework for Windows 7 (KB4579977)
    2021-02 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework for Windows 7 (KB4603002)
    you get KB4603002 rollup offered only if you do not have v1 installed
     
  7. bubumaus

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    Can somebody help, why the installation of march rollup(KB5000841) after restart fail.
    I have Bypass11 and the last rollup(KB4601347) was without problem. Thanks
     
  8. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    Thanks for the very detailed explanation.
    I was not aware that there were the 2021-03 versions released initially.
    This must have been for extremely short time, maybe 1 hour.
    In addition to what was said, KB4603002-v2 installs fine on top of KB4603002-v1 although apparently is not offered by WU if v1 is already installed.
    I am actually referring here to KB4600944-v2 update for .NET Framework 4.8, included in KB4603002-v2.
    In a manual installation, it is possible to have only KB4600944-v2 and uninstall all the other updates for .NET Framework 4.8.
    The other update for .NET Framework is old and there is nothing new in the current package.
    Is this configuration without KB4579977 (v1 or v2) complete from a patching perspective?
    WU seems to think so.
     
  9. abbodi1406

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    KB4578977-v2 also contain some newer files, but you might not be able to install it after KB4600944-v2
     
  10. enesalpa

    enesalpa MDL Junior Member

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    Hello abbodi1406

    If one has neither v1 nor v2 installed, would it be convenient to download and install them manually?
    Thanks
     
  11. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    #5451 ch100, Mar 12, 2021
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    is there any reason to install KB4578977-v2 after KB4600944-v2?

    EDIT: I was under the impression that there is a supersedence relationship between KB4600944-v2 and KB4578977-v2. Another check of the catalog doesn't show any supersedence. :confused:

    EDIT 2: Sorry, they are the individual packages for 4.8, normally there is no supersedence.
    What a mess with the .NET Framework updates. :)
     
  12. Fetzerator

    Fetzerator MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the explanation. I was initially offered the first 2 you mentioned but decided to hold off on installing them until things sorted out. I did install the monthly security rollup (KB500041).

    However, since then WU is not offering me any .NET updates. This would be the first time that I've had to do an update not offered by WU.
    The last one installed was KB4603002 (February Rollup). Is that normal? Should I wait for WU to offer them or should I install them on my own?
     
  13. abbodi1406

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    Yes, just download and install v2
     
  14. abbodi1406

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    Yes, Microsoft indicate that you don't need v2 if v1 is already installed

    v2 don't contain any new security fixes, they just re-signed the files with new certificate
     
  15. Fetzerator

    Fetzerator MDL Novice

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    Okay. NOW I understand (I think). Let me rephrase it a bit differently as it might help others:
    • If we had previously installed the October, 2020 .NET Rollup (KB4579977) then it is NOT necessary to install ANY of the March, 2021 .NET Rolllups
    Is that right, then?
     
  16. abbodi1406

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    February 2021 .NET Rollup (KB4603002)
     
  17. Fetzerator

    Fetzerator MDL Novice

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    LOL... Okay.
    • If we had previously installed the October, 2020 .NET Rollup (KB4579977) AND the February 2021 .NET Rollup (KB4603002), then we are up-to-date and it is NOT necessary to install ANY of the March, 2021 .NET Rolllup
     
  18. jose-mayorga

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  19. Enthousiast

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    It's always been this way
    Code:
    windows6.1-kb4578952-x64_30ac0df8554c2647017f3b36cc02e833a3187364.msu <--- dotnetfx35
    ndp47-kb4600945-v2-x64_974660a8bbb596162e9b65710cee274bc509e1c9.exe <--- for people on dotnetfx472
    windows6.1-kb4019990-x64_35cc310e81ef23439ba0ec1f11d7b71dd34adfe5.msu
    msipatchregfix-amd64_5011cb29b096fb674a4795ee8fc2f7fdad33863a.exe <--- no manual usage
    ndp45-kb4578955-v2-x64_bf17567bb3a895fe08a07a75323776a49266bfad.exe <--- for people on dotnetfx45
    ndp48-kb4600944-v2-x64_46e4157f2e3793c230ff8fad706130142769c2ff.exe <--- for people on dotnetfx48
    WU assesses which of the updates is needed and will install the appropriate ones.
     
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  20. jose-mayorga

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    #5460 jose-mayorga, Mar 12, 2021
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    Yes, you're right. My only point was that, although being a "2021-02" update, KB4603002 now has a 09/03/2021 modification.