Bypass Windows 7 Extended Security Updates Eligibility

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by abbodi1406, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Ready_Slavik

    Ready_Slavik MDL Novice

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    #8221 Ready_Slavik, Nov 13, 2024
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    [James Bond 007, post: 1860257, member: 188531 - "Unless you are already using (or switch to) the security-only updates and then you can just skip this month's security-only update KB5046705."]

    I used the Security Only Monthly Update KB5046705 and it didn't necessarily break Firefox v115.17.0esr - it was working after ALL the security updates released today were installed.

    I had some nuisances with Adobe Acrobat DC and Adobe Creative Cloud Experience programs. I used their respective cleanup tools and from there Firefox tabs began crashing at startup and opening a new tab (even a blank one). Also at that time, I had installed one of several due MS update packages relating to Windows Server 2008 R2 components (post-applying the BypassESU v13 security updates) - specifically, KB981392 - Best Practices Analyzer for Application Server (this did not include the updated package KB2386667.)

    In the event that your discovery is indeed a result of these updates, I can say that the System Update Readiness Tool (KB947821-v34) or using the "sfc /scannow" command did not really correct this OS state. It's 3-4 hours waiting for the finished task with the System Update Readiness Tool. Mozilla may shortly have an ESR release that fixes the issue.

    Otherwise Firefox partially began to work after a little play with creating new profiles from "about : profiles" and setting them as default, then back again (one of them being a "Refresh Firefox" committal - just make a copy of your default profiles from the {user}-AppData-[Local,Roaming]-Mozilla-Firefox-Profile folders before doing this.) It worked once, until someone closed the browser. I re-did this action by creating a new profile, making it default (but not opening it in a new browser session just yet). Manually, I copied ONLY the "bookmarks backup" folder into this new profile at this folder location:

    {user}-AppData-Roaming-Mozilla-Firefox-Profiles-{new profile folder}

    If you've made a copy of the original default profile from the Roaming-Mozilla etc profile, you can delete the old one once the default profile is the new one and opened in a new browser windows - close the old browser (where you did the "about : profiles" task of creating a new profile) and delete the old profile from the Roaming-Mozilla-Firefox-Profiles folder.

    All the Add-ons I had to make a list of, and re-install them in the "Tools-Add-ons and Themes" (add the Menu Bar in order to fast access this feature.) If you are online and you are able to access the Add-on Manager screen (addons.mozolla.org webpage) + install your add-ons successfully, that's at least something.

    Firefox would surely bring up frequently the crashed tab messages when choosing one of the popular sites. If you bring up the Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del - Start Task Manager, Show processes from all users), you will notice that when you get a crashed tab situation, a multiple processes titled "minidump-analyzer.exe" will begin to work for a brief 4-10 seconds. These may be seeking to reconfigure itself in order to access the webpage based on any new MS services involved with browsing using Firefox. This may also include "hardware acceleration" settings. Some webpages will experience the crash tab several times, and each time attempting to restore the tab will be more about reverting back to the previous webpage that worked. But eventually, some webpages selected based on your collected "Bookmarks" will open the webpage with a margin of success if not fully. When you see a "Submit Report" option for a webpage that did not fully open successfully, submit that report to Mozilla - then try again to refresh/open the same webpage once the activity in the Task Manager shows the "minidump-analyzer.exe" process(es) have finished their work. This method may demonstrate a slow recovery back into browsing with Firefox, yet any pages past a Sign-In may crash the tab and need the "minidump-analyzer.exe" process to reconfigure that page by recovering the tab several times. Hopefully a little patience may prevail a comeback for Firefox.

    Mind you, all this information was based on NOT YET having the missing KB2386667 update package installed. For all I know, it may not even had been necessary to create a new profile in Firefox and delete the old one. I did have a new profile that stopped working when I changed in the Settings page for Privacy & Security - History (having a setting other than "Remember History" likely will bring more crash tabs than desired.)

    This was the first time for me installing an official Windows Server 2008 R2 package in a Windows 7 x64 machine post-POS Embedded EOL support, so naturally the additional Windows Server 2008 R2 packages required to be installed are as follows:

    Security Update x64 (KB2643719) - Color Control Panel DLL RCE Patch (MS12-012) - February 12
    Update x64 (KB2608658) - SIS (Single Instance Storage) Component Update - March 12
    Update x64 (KB981392) - Best Practices Analyzer for Application Server - August 12
    Update x64 (KB2386667) - Best Practices Analyzer for Application Server (6 New Rules) - August 12
    Update x64 (KB981390) - Best Practices Analyzer For WSUS - October 12
    Security Update x64 (KB2992611-KB3018238) - Update (MS14-066) - November 14
    Security Update x64 (KB3133043) - NPS RADIUS Server Authentication DoS Resolution (MS16-021) - February 16

    The one package you may NOT want/need (unless your networking requires it for Windows 10 interacting) is:
    Update x64 (KB3080149) - Customer Experience & Diagnostic Telemetry (W10 DATA MINING!!) - August 15

    Still, thanks to all for the heads up about the browser bust ups.
     
  2. eric cabrol

    eric cabrol MDL Novice

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    Hello
    Should I uninstall BypassESU v12_u before installing BypassESU-v13
    Or install v13 over v12
    Have a nice day
     
  3. mdili

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    My Firefox and Waterfox also break after the update.
    I still have a installation of a super-legacy Waterfox 2022.11 (based on Firefox 56) which is working after the update, so I can log in the forum and check whether the update causes the problem before rolliing back to previous restore point.

    Thanks for confirming the issue
     
  4. Ready_Slavik

    Ready_Slavik MDL Novice

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    [eric cabrol, post: 1860274, member: 595610 - "Should I uninstall BypassESU v12_u before installing BypassESU-v13 Or install v13 over v12."]

    Run BypassESU v12 first (Run As Administrator the LiveOS-Setup.cmd file). Select Option 4 if available - Remove ESU Suppressor (don't worry about repeating this for the .NET v4.x BypassESU Option). Once done, exit the Command Prompt window. Now, use the BypassESU v13 LiveOS-Setup.cmd file as previously detailed. This time, use Option 1 - Install ALL.

    You may not experience installation issues when choosing to install the .NET v4.x security updates FIRST (before installing the Security [Monthly,Only] Quality [Rollup,Update] or the Cumulative Security Update for IE11.). I did them in this order, and I did notice a little CPU lingering with the "msiexec.exe" process after installing the .NET v4.x security update. But they all configured to 100% at restarting. And don't forget the Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool v5-130.
     
  5. chi77

    chi77 MDL Novice

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    #8225 chi77, Nov 13, 2024
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    So I installed KB5046687 yesterday and also ran Windows Update Cleanup after a successful reboot... Guess I have to commit now!?

    Luckily I was able to partially "fix" some affected programs with VxKex. VSCode, for instance, did crash the terminal on launch but ( [x]Enable VxKex for this progam + [x]Report a different version: Windows 8.1 + [x]Disable VxKex for child processes ) made it work. With r3dfox and TorBrowser I had to report Windows 10 to not crash my Feedbro extension and be able to browse again and open new tabs. Visiting reddit still crashes the browser when the first video wants to start playing. VisualStudio works fine until you want to Debug your code. Then the s**tty msedgewebview2.exe goes brb. VxKex with different settings did different things to webview2, but did not fix it. Maybe I have to kex the parent process as well...

    Edit: r3dfox 132.0, had to set the reported version to 8.1 as well, so now reddit and yt don't crash anymore. Feedbro only crashes when I click on it right after the browser start, but works fine if i don't rush it.

    Anyways, am I stranded now with this update or is there a way to install last month's update over this one?
     
  6. eric cabrol

    eric cabrol MDL Novice

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    Thank you very much Ready_Slavik
     
  7. James Bond 007

    James Bond 007 MDL Member

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    You cannot directly reinstall last month's rollup KB5044356 over this latest one. But you should be able to uninstall KB5046687 and reinstall last month's rollup KB5044356.
     
  8. xbrt10

    xbrt10 MDL Novice

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    KB 5046543 failed 3 times in a row. Code 643. Anything to try here? All else installed fine btw.
     
  9. chi77

    chi77 MDL Novice

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    Thanks! Wasn't 100% sure if I could do that after the Update Cleanup. Back to normal ;)
     
  10. xbrt10

    xbrt10 MDL Novice

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    Oh there was a new bypass version, didn't notice. Just tried with v13 and KB5046543 worked fine. Actually it said the update wasn't needed.
     
  11. xbrt10

    xbrt10 MDL Novice

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    Yep, Firefox 115.17.0 ESR now not working for me either. Had to use Chrome, it works. What to do for Firefox ESR to start working again, is it even possible at this point?
     
  12. xbrt10

    xbrt10 MDL Novice

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    As suggested above, I have removed KB5046687. Then it said KB5044356 was already installed. Anyway FF ESR is working again.
     
  13. vp2

    vp2 MDL Novice

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    #8234 vp2, Nov 13, 2024
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    Yandex Browser works fine with KB5046687

    User-Agent:
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/128.0.0.0 YaBrowser/24.10.0.0 Safari/537.36
     
  14. vp2

    vp2 MDL Novice

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    Do you think they broke other browsers? :)
     
  15. Nagivator

    Nagivator MDL Novice

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    He just want's to say that it's not an alternative.
     
  16. Sinclair ZX81

    Sinclair ZX81 MDL Novice

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    Moin @ All!

    My November 2024 ESUpdate experience for Windows 7 Pro / Enterprise SP1 x64 systems:

    "Licensing method": KB4528069 & "new" BypassESU-v13

    "Installing method": Manual download and installation via Microsoft®Update-Catalog

    KB5046258 (Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 4.8) -> succesfully installed

    KB5046630 (Cumulative Security Update for IE 11 for Windows Server 2008 R2) -> succesfully installed

    KB5046705 (Security Only Quality Update for Windows Server 2008 R2) -> succesfully installed but afterwards the Firefox 115.17.0esr (64-Bit) browser no longer works. Uninstallation of KB5046705 solves the issue and Firefox works correctly again.

    The following additional updates were offered by the Microsoft servers via the Windows Update Search and were also successfully installed: Security Intelligence-Update for Microsoft Security Essentials and .NET 6.0.36 Security Update for x64 Client (KB5047486). Please Note: This is the last update for .NET 6 (LTS). Support ends with this update!


    @ abbodi1406: The new bypass ESU validation for .NET 4 updates works well. Great job & thx for your support!
     
  17. John_3_16

    John_3_16 MDL Member

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    #8239 John_3_16, Nov 13, 2024
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    Take with a grain of salt. ;>)) Navigator is correct. For me it is not an alternative due to trust issues. Providence is huge. Browsers from countries such as Russia, Iran, North Korea, China, etc. are not going to end up "voluntarily" on my computer. A huge reason for the security software on my systems are due to hacking malware from those global locations; not all but a huge percentage. Caveat emptor. ;>))

    I think @ abbodi1406 could be right in that MS has released updates that are specific to a server which may not be considered to be internet facing; in other words not a browser based machine. Still it could be a corrupt update file inside the update that will get fixed in a week or 2. By someone, somewhere. ;>))
     
  18. b1Ack

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    #8240 b1Ack, Nov 13, 2024
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