Bypass Windows 7 Extended Security Updates Eligibility

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  1. Mivas

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  3. mne1

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    Wrong, security only updates are not cumulative, you need to install the november update first, restart and then install the december update.
     
  4. John_3_16

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  5. Seven4ever

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    I have 2 PCs under W7, one is up to date with patch 13f, got december updates thanks for it.
    Second pc have error because I had stopped updates for some months:
    It got updates to november 2023, it is patched with version from 02 march 2023, when launching update i get error 80072EFD . What are the steps to update it including december 2024 Kbs?
     
  6. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Did you use WSUS Proxy or Standalone WU ESU Patcher?
    try to remove each
     
  7. SEBA33

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    Interesting. Why bypass esu 13f don't let's update IE 11 on automatic in Windows 7 ? But manually working install that update?
     
  8. John_3_16

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    This forum is for updating Win7. IE is a separate program. It is way beyond EOL & not required to run Win7. WU does not alert to IE updates but you can still find them manually via legacy software that still uses it in the catalog. Pretty much you have SSU, .NET framework & security updates via WinServer2008R2x64 updates. To be honest, almost no-one uses IE any longer (for years). I only update it because I have it & I can. I keep everything on my system updated because it is on my system.
     
  9. SEBA33

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    OK.

    Is possible turn off and IE on Windows Vista? Because here still need combine.
     
  10. FuzzleSnuz

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    This isn't true. Microsoft's user-facing literature doesn't mention it much, so it's an understandable misconception (that M$ intentionally spreads too...), but IE is a critical part of the Windows shell and even the underlying OS. This is why Internet Explorer is still in service and receiving updates until at least January 2029. It's not meant to be removed. If you rip out IE from Windows, many things break.

    Components of IE are used in explorer (the file browser), the stock Microsoft applications (wmp, wmc, sidebar, etc), the help system, the management console, web controls for Microsoft application frameworks (winforms, wpf, etc), and more et cetera. Fun fact: if you install a toolbar for Internet Explorer, you can also try enabling it in explorer. You can also use explorer to access ftp urls and other network locations without starting a web browser - this because of how closely explorer is coupled with IE. So even if you never actually open the "Internet Explorer" application, it is still required for Windows to function as intended, and it's in your interest to take IE updates just the same as the main rollup if you like staying updated. This is in part why Microsoft started bundling the IE rollups into the main rollup since a year or so ago.

    tl;dr Treat IE like the .NET Framework when it comes to updates and dependencies. It is the backbone of a lot of things.
     
  11. John_3_16

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    I knew there had to be a good reason I was still hanging onto it. I must have read your same message years ago & just forgot; still hanging onto it & updating it all this time.

    Thanks for the reminder & facts for everyone else. I agree; M$ is not to be trusted. ;>))
     
  12. John_3_16

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    Read Comment#8480 after your last & BEFORE deactivating IE. It is well worth keeping & updating.
     
  13. Carlos Detweiller

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    Deep integration of the Trident engine (that's the actual framework part) already started with the IE 4.0 "Active Desktop Update", for the few who still remember. Before, the Desktop and Explorer were mostly static, and you could only use BMP (and maybe DIB, RLE, don't remember well) as Desktop background. Active Desktop brought JPG and even "website as background" support, and much more. It has stayed integrated since then and only now MS detaches the OS from Trident (just to make the same mistake again with Edge).
     
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  14. SEBA33

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    It isn't mistake. It is future. Can fully replace that example for Firefox or other browser without be with much browsers.
     
  15. SEBA33

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    Of course we tell about Internet Explorer browser. Not about that all Active X IE what Microsoft will kill to 2029.
     
  16. Seven4ever

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    Seven4ever said:
    I have 2 PCs under W7, one is up to date with patch 13f, got december updates thanks for it.
    Second pc have error because I had stopped updates for some months:
    It got updates to november 2023, it is patched with version from 02 march 2023, when launching update i get error 80072EFD . What are the steps to update it including december 2024 Kbs?​

    abbodi1406:
    Did you use WSUS Proxy or Standalone WU ESU Patcher?
    try to remove each​
    You mean I do remove all and install 13f directly ?
     
  17. Elmbeard

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    I run Win7 as a guest OS on my Macbook Pro via an antique version of Parallels (later versions only support the latest versions of Windows and MacOS, which are no use to me). Some time in the past, Win7 developed a glitch whereby it sent square wave pops and crackles through the sound card and wrecked the speakers on my laptop. It also had a habit of putting these onto any sound file I was editing. I therefore use Windows XP for this, and also for burning CDs, as it is rock solid and I never have any trouble with slowness, processor overload or pops and crackles. XP does all I want except browsing and is half the size of Win7. I use Win 7 when browsing mostly since the browsers stopped supporting earlier operating systems, and thanks to this site, I am still reasonably secure for now.

    I examined the sound drivers, and most have identical copies in the Repository, so it is less likely these have got corrupted. However, there is one (ksthunk.sys) that is not in the Repository that was originally installed in 2009 (and probably came with the installation disk), but seems to being updated monthly, certainly since June, with the latest update being in October. Would this be part of the monthly rollup? Ksthunk is a converter to allow 64-bit programs to be run on a 32-bit system. Since the Mac is 64-bit, and so is my version of Win7, I am wondering if this is causing the soundcard problem, corrupting sound files, so the overload is played and then wrecks the speakers. Would it be wise to restore the original version of this file, and hope that Windows Update is not corrupting it with updates?
     
  18. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    v13 can override WU ESU Patcher

    if you used WSUS Proxy, run Remove_wsus.cmd
     
  19. Seven4ever

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    So fine, removed proxy, error has gone but of course no new update found
    What would you suggest to get latests updates, apply directly 13.f patch with 2008 r2 server or apply intermediate updates with another patch ?
     
  20. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    The updates would be the same regardless

    it can help to ensure that latest SSU KB5039339 is installed