Dangers of builds 25905+

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  1. OSMAN

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    you can upgrade 25393 to server 25931 i did it on my system as a test for fun. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion than change EditionID to serverStandard
     
  2. milkom

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    Can't be stressed enough how crucial it is to keep the important stuff on an external drive or at least on a separate partition in case disaster happens and you need to reinstall the OS or just want to test new builds
     
  3. PolidelticusFire

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    I believe zn_release was a stop gap branch while they were testing and stabilizing Gallium for public testing.
     
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  4. PolidelticusFire

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    Does anyone think MS may drop Intel CPUs older than 12th gen with Win12?
     
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  5. Nicolas Bermudez

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    Why not create separate partition then install non-Canary Windows on it? At least you would have normal Windows running on real machine.
     
  6. moonlightz

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    I think not. It would be too disgusting for everyone.
     
  7. moonlightz

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    I can test that on the system3 .. which has 25357. I will give this a try.
    I would need more instructions.
    I know how to edit the registry values.
    But if everyone could provide their steps, it would be nice.
     
  8. acer-5100

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    #48 acer-5100, Aug 21, 2023
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    There is no problem with MBR disk even on 259xx, there is a problem with purposely blocked CPUs

    Whatever If one is masochist enough, can convert an MBR disk to a GPT one in matter of seconds using mbr2gpt or one of the many partitioning SW that have the function

    On those systems 259xx won't boot even inside VMware/Hyper-V, given the CPU is not emulated but virtualized.

    You would need QUEMU with virtualization disabled, and emulated CPUs are slow even on recent CPUs, let alone a core 2 or a turion.
     
  9. acer-5100

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    Because native VHDS are way simpler and effective

    Everyone should forget the words "install", "setup", "ISO" and alike in 2023.

    Deploying and is all we need
     
  10. Nicolas Bermudez

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    I haven't used Windows setup.exe in a long time btw. But my disk layout has been the same for long time too (C for my main Windows, D for most of my videos and other big files, and E a 20 GB partition for multipurpose). I could format E then merge it to D and create VHD folder there, but in my case it is way simpler to just apply-image Windows directly to E. I'll use DISM capture-image only if I like that version of Windows and want to keep it, otherwise I'll just format it and fill it with different Windows.
     
  11. acer-5100

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    There is no reason to keep even one single OS installed in the old way.

    Obviously your big data should be placed inside a real partition (or a separate vhd) to be shared between all OS, and to keep the size of the OS vhds as small as possible.

    the same is applicable to the Temp folder. (if you have a lor of RAM is even better to place there the temp folder(s) the cache of browsers and so on.
     
  12. moonlightz

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    I've always used slow hdds for the past 25 years until few years ago (2018) when I bought my first 2 cheap SSDs (Sandisk 120GB SSD PLUS something).
    They were meant to be used with ... ancient laptops. They are still in use today... just for the OS, programs, few files.
    Meanwhile, the cheap SSDs gained my trust and bought some more the next years.
    My main PC (Q9550) has a SSD... I did use Norton Ghost to mirror file-by-file the old HDD to the SSD. Norton Ghost expanded the c: partition for me.
    My main PC has now one SSD and 2 HDDs for data.
    Other PCs I use also gained SSDs.
    I never fill the whole SSD. I always leave like 2..5GB at end of the SSD unpartitioned.
    Resuming... data is stored on HDDs, external HDDs, or DVDs for permanent storage.
    Of course, I'm scared that some SSD die on me and that's why I leave just few files along with the OS.
    I know an idi... a friend that bought a Kingston A400 240GB and in few days... RMA with it. I had it here at home and the SSD was throwing a bunch of red blocks with HDtune's error scan. He probably reinstalled the OS too many times and also abused when copying the freaking huge games library .
     
  13. acer-5100

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    good to know, but what that has to do with the argument you posted initially:confused:
     
  14. moonlightz

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    Not much. Just telling how I keep my things. Someone in this thread did also.
    Yeh. I do beleave it has more to do with CPU/chipset with MBR/GPT.
    I didn't do much about this issue... I been busy doing other things.
     
  15. r3muxd

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    people are saying it bugchecks with UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR, has anyone tried to attach a kernel debugger and see the call stack?
     
  16. Enthousiast

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    Isn't that MSI specific and not supposed to happen, considering it is very modern hardware?
     
  17. moonlightz

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    #57 moonlightz, Aug 26, 2023
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    Saturday...
    I am trying that regedit edit. Changing EditionID from Profession to ServerStandard.
    I copied the 25926 iso contents to the HDD of the computer that has 25357 and overwritten the 2 dll files in sources folder and ran the setup.exe.
    Ignored searching for updates, accepted the license and.... this time it allows me to select 2 things: my personal files, or nothing. I selected my personal files. Not much to lose on that system. It's still within Windows but I'm affraid that it will not reboot successfully into setup's first phase.

    EDIT: Or not... it errored out on GeneralTel.dll: Can't find the specified module.
    .
     
  18. moonlightz

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    Can you post any source?
     
  19. moonlightz

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    Well... yeah... Microsoft is planning to bump a lot of people out of newer Windows releases.
    Meanwhile this, uupdump site is having problems... sometimes it does not load at all or it loads slowly... though I have gigabit connection.