Defund the NSA!

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Humphrey, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. Humphrey

    Humphrey MDL Expert

    Dec 13, 2011
    #1 Humphrey, Jul 24, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2013
    This is the first I am hearing of this? Coincidence?

    Quoted from the website. Tell your congress man that you support

    Dear Internet,

    It's been just over a month since new information on the NSA’s dragnet domestic surveillance program was leaked to the public. Today, Congress is voting on an amendment that would block funding for NSA programs using Section 215 of the Patriot Act to mass collect the call records of innocent Americans.​
    A win today may start a chain reaction that leads to real reform - but it won't happen unless we speak up. We have one day to convince Congress to act.​
    A critical vote is happening TODAY, July 24th, on the Defense Appropriations Bill in the House of Representatives. The bill gives taxpayer money to fund defense programs, including the NSA, which is part of the Department of Defense.​
    On Monday, an important bipartisan amendment to that bill was green-lighted to be voted on TODAY. Proposed by Rep. Justin Amash (MI), the amendment would remove funding for NSA programs using the Patriot Act for blanket collection of phone records and metadata from phone service providers.​
    The summary of the amendment on the House of Representatives website reads: ​
    Ends authority for the blanket collection of records under the Patriot Act. Bars the NSA and other agencies from using Section 215 of the Patriot Act to collect records, including telephone call records, that pertain to persons who are not subject to an investigation under Section 215.​
    In other words, while the amendment would not actually defund the NSA or all NSA surveillance, it would defund surveillance conducted under Section 215 of the Patriot Act of millions of ordinary Americans who are not the targets of any investigation.​
    The vote on this bill is critical. We need to flood Congress with calls in support of the amendment, and hold our representatives accountable.​
    If you care about the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution and if you believe that privacy is critical to liberty, now is the time to act. ​
    Just a few dozen calls to a single representative can change the way they vote. You can also contact Congress via Demand Progress's website.​
    This critical amendment to secure our privacy won't pass without public support. One in ten people who visit this site will take action and call their representatives.
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  2. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

    Feb 13, 2011
    This part I find kind of disturbing, not all are innocent. I don't think defunding them is the way to go, it will let a lot of hoodlums off the hook.
    Make the process more efficient rather than cancelling the process altogether.
  3. Humphrey

    Humphrey MDL Expert

    Dec 13, 2011
    #3 Humphrey, Jul 26, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    I think you misunderstand per the url. Here is a little exert from a post.

    Here is a email I get from "Fight for the future":
    Something astounding and special happened yesterday.
    205 - 217. That's the vote tally on the amendment to defund the NSA's blanket collection of phone records (and possibly web communications). People on the left and right lined up for it and were emphatic about passing it, so much so that Obama and the NSA came out to kill it. Now, that the bill did this well, albeit it didn't pass, they know change is coming.
    There’s a major shift happening in this country and it’s reverberating through DC right now. The way our reps voted on this Amendment will go down in history. Did they stand with the Constitution or vote to continue funding the NSA’s mass surveillance of innocent people?
    Click here to find out how your rep’s voted -- and then let them know how you feel.
    What happened yesterday basically never happens. 94 Republicans rebelled against their party leadership and joined 110 Democrats who defied the White House’s call to tow the line. The Amash amendment almost passed, and just a few days ago no one had even heard of it. The media is calling it a win for us. Congressional staffers told us their phones were ringing off the hook, and said, “We know,” since more than tens of thousands of people used to look up their reps’ phone number.
    The NSA was literally terrified, and kicked their lobbying into overdrive, holding secret meetings with politicians to beg for continued funding of their unconstitutional projects.
    As a symbolic act to let Congress know that we’re watching this issue closely, we called up our favorite bakery in DC and had them send a few cakes with the text of the 4th Amendment on them to some of the braver members of Congress who broke ranks with their party leadership to defend our right to privacy.
    So who’s getting cake and who wishes they had some? Find out at
    After the smoke settled from the vote, we got on the phone with organizers from over a dozen other groups that we’re working with on this issue. Everyone agreed that -- while the amendment failed by a narrow margin -- we are so incredibly close to dismantling the U.S. Government’s illegal spying programs that threaten the basic rights of people worldwide.
    It was incredible to see the internet light up with people taking action on this issue. We’re glad folks liked sharing this quick little meme we made on Facebook.
    A lot of the action was happening on Twitter. Do you follow us there?
    We are feeling extremely energized, thank you for everything you’ve done. We’ve accomplished an incredible amount already, and our numbers are growing.
    More soon,
    -Holmes Wilson & Tiffiniy Cheng
    Fight for the Future
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