Disable/Remove Telemetry and Tracking Service

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by abbodi1406, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. tro511

    tro511 MDL Member

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    abbodi1406,

    I'm coming from a point of total ignorance here, so forgive me if this is way out there. Would it be possible to use dummy/fake DLL and EXE files, registry entries to make Windows think that the Customer Experience Improvement, Telemetry stuff, Compatibility Appraiser, etc, were already installed? If so, could they be used to report a 'newer version' than what would be installed by offending Monthly Rollups, Security only patches/updates? In other words, could the offending updates by ran by doing this, allowed install anything outside of the offending files and not removed in their entirety, leaving Windows Updates reporting that they are installed, and hopefully allowing removal of the entire fake-out system?

    I hope that makes sense!
     
  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    @tro511

    Creating fake WinSxS components with higher version is technically possible, but not easy to accomplish
    and the fake components (manifests) must be added manually with proper registry keys before installing any monthly rollup or security only update
    i.e. it will only work for clean Win 7 installation

    the current approch of disabling telemetry is good enough
    CEIP cannot be removed, but nothing will be sent if it's OFF
     
  3. tro511

    tro511 MDL Member

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    Thanks for the quick reply.
     
  4. mak234

    mak234 MDL Novice

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    #265 mak234, Apr 28, 2020
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    hey guys,

    I didn't read the whole thread. does this block the key logger?
    also how can we see or is there an application that can tell what microsoft is trying to upload everyday and how to prevent it?

    update: I meant if we did decide to install w10?
    Thx!
     
  5. Mfylssnds Esufhnyfz

    Mfylssnds Esufhnyfz MDL Novice

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    How about a collection of HOSTS for blocking telemetry as well (I know there are some lists in GitHub, but are they any good?)
    Also, since some programs can skip the HOSTS resolving directly to next-nearest DNS-resolving (your router/ISP), you can use PieHole in your home network (I've heard that switching to AdGuard-DNS helps eliminate some of the tracking that is shared with the M$ websites such as pixel-tracking and ads-domains),
    You CAN block those on your machine however if you'll have a program such as PeerBlock (new fork PeerGuardian), the driver works well on Windows 7 at least, and if you'll load up the Microsoft-related IPs (gets updated sometimes) from iblocklist website, it can help you, in additional to the HOSTS blocking.
     
  6. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Win 7/8.1 don't need all that FUD mess, no telemetry is sent when CEIP is OFF
     
  7. yescn

    yescn MDL Junior Member

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    英文看不懂,我太难了:eek:
     
  8. yescn

    yescn MDL Junior Member

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    如何在Windows 10上防止遥测
     
  9. yescn

    yescn MDL Junior Member

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    How to prevent telemetry on Windows 10
     
  10. if its enterprise edition then just a single reg tweak to disable CEIP as suggested by abbodi brother will do it nothing else is needed.

    but if Home or Pro edition then it needs some tools plus firewall Outbound Rules or separate Hosts file to disable telemtry completely but not 100% as till date i think theres no any solution to completly disable telemetry on these edition without breaking the system function as per user needs.
    Especialy i am talking about Edge if removed Win updates wont work anymore.
    shell experience host if removed win wont boot correctly as its needed for wdm windows desktop manager to work properly.
    etc etc too many other reasons too ie hidden scheduled tasks plus un needed active services ...... list goes on & on & on.
     
  11. wzman

    wzman MDL Novice

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    What is this registry tweak for Enterprise? I searched half the thread, but didn't find it.

    Edit: Nevermind, I thought it was for Windows 7
     
  12. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    @haz367

    Yes, it has no effects (at least in my tests)
     
  13. haz367

    haz367 MDL Addicted

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    #275 haz367, May 10, 2020
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    Ok, nice :)

    PS: For anyone asking himself (like me...) :p howto add the package to a live OS
    Load a WinPE iso > browse to main OS dir (c:\) >> cmd >> dism /image:c:\ /add-package /packagepath:c:\IMIKurwica-DeTelemetry-Package-x86.cab >> reboot
     
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    volldy36 MDL Novice

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    is there a need to use this after updating windows7 iso using Simplix Pack(which I believe leaves the telemetry updates out)
     
  16. I as according to me think no theres no need . but abbodi1406 brother will assist better .
     
  17. haz367

    haz367 MDL Addicted

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    #279 haz367, May 20, 2020
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    For anyone interested, not my work obviously....Just read up on the full thread and noticed about the cmd screen not showing on boot...same on my end. Tested diff ways in the task scheduler but it refuse to show on boot? So, for people that like to see the cmd on (each) boot >>

    I create a GPO rule
    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run
    It removes the task and ad the batch to C:\Windows\WuESU\scripts
    Same file ofcourse :)

    put folder on c:\
    run [run]w10block_202005.cmd

    Code:
    @echo off
    
    schtasks /Delete /F /TN "BlockW10"
    powershell write-host -fore Magenta MS WIndows 7 -- Add W10-block script to the User Logon --===GPO--===
    
    powershell write-host -fore Green Credits to --====abbodi1406 - MDL--====
    
    mkdir C:\Windows\WuESU\scripts
    xcopy C:\w10block\W10-Block.cmd C:\Windows\WuESU\scripts /r /y
    regedit /s C:\w10block\w10block.reg
    
    TIMEOUT /T 5
    
     

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  18. tro511

    tro511 MDL Member

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    #280 tro511, May 29, 2020
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    If I am using the Suppressor (on Win7 before applying any updates), does it matter if I use the 'Security-only' packages or not?

    Also: Would this impact applying ESUs in any way?