Disabling hibernation

ian82 · Mar 4, 2014

Enigma256 said: ↑

1) Fast startup / hybrid shutdown is a tool for newbies. It is the exact same as log off + hibernate, and you'll notice that Microsoft removed hibernate from the shutdown UI by default. Why? Because people didn't understand the difference between sleep and hibernate. It was a point of confusion for many newbie users. Also, many users have been trained to "shut down" the system when, really, hibernate and sleep are better than shutting down. So Microsoft compromised: sleep is still sleep, and now hibernate and shutdown have been merged into logoff+hibernate and renamed to shutdown. This removes the confusion and gets people to use hibernate instead of shutdown, which really is better, IMO.

2) But for advanced users, this is silly. When I shut down, I want a full shutdown, not a hibernate. That's because the (very few) times I invoke shutdown, it's because I need a shutdown. E.g., if I'm shutting the system down to change hardware. Hybrid shutdown would not be a good idea here (but hey, this is a use case that most computer users will never encounter). And if I hibernate, I want my system state saved! I don't want to log off when I hibernate. If I did, I'd rather manually log off before hitting hibernate.

Hey, you know what's even faster than "fast startup" (really, I wish advanced users will stop calling it that and call it what is really is: "logoff/hibernate")? Startup from a true hibernate, because you don't have to restart and reinitialize all your userland processes!

The default of sleep + logoff/hibernate makes absolutely no sense for an advanced user, when compared to the traditional sleep + hibernate + full shutdown. It's a great idea for your grandmother and for the typical casual computer user, though, which is why it's the default. In case you haven't figured out by now, defaults are usually optimized for casual users because they never go exploring all the different settings, and advanced users are fully capable of changing the settings to something that's more reasonable for them.

As for hibernation on a SSD, you do realize that SSD endurance is very high, relative to the wear from hibernation, right? Esp. since that hibernate, being a simple sequential dump to disk, has no write amplification. Unless you are hibernating many times every single day of the year, it will not come remotely close to "destroying" your SSD. And while I usually use sleep, I do sometimes use hibernate: for example, if I need to open the computer to do some dusting, I want to remove power from the system, but I don't want to have to close and later restart all my programs, so I hibernate. Or if I'm traveling, and won't be using the laptop for several hours, hibernate means less drain on the battery than sleep.
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so how does one go about keeping hibernate but disabling the fast shutdown/fast boot option which doesn't really totally shutdown? just disable fast boot from the power options and that's it?

I don't want to use C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0 everytime I want to shut down

lllFATAL1TY · Mar 5, 2014

ian82 said: ↑

so how does one go about keeping hibernate but disabling the fast shutdown/fast boot option which doesn't really totally shutdown? just disable fast boot from the power options and that's it?
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yes

ian82 said: ↑

I don't want to use C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0 everytime I want to shut down
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if you wanna let Fast Shutdown Enabled and sometime you have to make a real shutdown, just hold down SHIFT key while click in Shutdown and it will perform a true shutdown

ian82 · Mar 5, 2014

lllFATAL1TY said: ↑

if you wanna let Fast Shutdown Enabled and sometime you have to make a real shutdown, just hold down SHIFT key while click in Shutdown and it will perform a true shutdown
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ohh, that's much easier! thanks pro

Enigma256 · Mar 5, 2014

ian82 said: ↑

so how does one go about keeping hibernate but disabling the fast shutdown/fast boot option which doesn't really totally shutdown? just disable fast boot from the power options and that's it?
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Yes. I turn on the option to show hibernate and turn off fast startup.

Disabling hibernation

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