[DISCUSSION] Browser Support for Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Chuterix, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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  2. ExiledRose6084

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    Eh true but back then they said they had no clue when they would actually end support.

    "We will not be ending support for Windows 7/Windows 8 before the release of the Firefox 115 ESR, so the Firefox 115 ESR will support Windows 7/Windows 8 at least until 3Q 2024.

    I can't speak to when we will remove support for Windows 7/Windows 8."

    Now they announced it will officially be the last release.
     
  3. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Isn't more or less what I wrote at the time?

     
  4. ExiledRose6084

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    True I mean I am not denying that at all & your calculations where correct but at that time the Firefox developer said "I can't speak to when we will remove support for Windows 7/Windows 8"

    Which this was linked all over the place on windows 7 reddit & other forums & people thought that it meant there was a chance for Firefox to possibly continue after v115 ESR but eh when you posted that info it wasn't officially confirmed, it just wasn't known Firefox would end with v115 ESR.

    So I posted a link about it being officially confirmed today.

    So eh I am not saying you are wrong or anything like that & not looking to start an argument or anything of that nature. Just wanted to share that it was officially confirmed firefox was ending & that was all lol.
     
  5. acer-5100

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    @ExiledRose6084

    When a politician tells that he will not raise the taxes before the next year, he is really telling "the next year the taxes will be raised"

    Here is not different, the news must be interpreted, and a shocking news is given in a softer way initially, to mitigate the reactions, but really no confirmation is needed, in such situations.;)
     
  6. Chuterix

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    sad... :bye2:
     
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  7. ExiledRose6084

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    Makes sense & understandable.

    Anyway sorry if I was rude in any of my posts.
     
  8. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    No need to sorry, we are just discussing. ;)
     
  9. DvineLord

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    @wkeller , check your chromium hibbiki versions 120 is the latest not 75 even though it's on top. link to the 64 and 32 bit versions.
     
  10. #290 Deleted member 190847, May 31, 2023
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    I must have made a typo. Thx, updated.
     
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    #291 alzcoew397, Jun 1, 2023
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    huge dissapoiment from mozilla, once they were the BIG as for the long term support.....we dont know yet for 7 but the IRONY as for 8.1 is that by the time firefox support ends , nt 6.3 core it will be STILL supported (throught 2026)
     
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    32bit .120 version is here on the github Hibbiki chromium-win32. sorry i cant post links.
     
  13. 32-bit Hibbiki added to the list.
    Thank You!
     
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    Telemetry per se means nothing.

    Even Vivaldi has technical telemetry. It's essential to understand crash paths and to improve SW. and to understand what feature is used and what's not.

    Telemetry intended as collecting the navigation history, the user's habits, made by the big brothers Apple, Google , MS and Co. is a way different thing.

    First because they collect data also from other sources, like email, navigation SW, the OS itself, second because the scope.

    In that area there is a big difference between blade and razors vendors.
     
  16. Nykto

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    Why does Cloudflare need to understand Firefox's crash paths?
     
  17. acer-5100

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    #1 I'm not defending FF here, I'm just trying to elevate the discussion above the 14 Y/O level

    #2 Why move the discussion target to a web service if the discussion is about browsers?

    #3 that said many (if not most of ) attacks (both to websites and browsers) are done triggering crashes, so I'm not surprised at all.
     
  18. You forget one thing. It can be disabled without recompiling from source.
    Which is usually not possible in case of chromium browsers.
     
  19. acer-5100

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    #300 acer-5100, Jun 8, 2023
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    Relax.

    #1 I'm not a FF lover, like I already wrote before, I use some FF derivatives as a second browser to Vivaldi which is a light year better browser than FF just like Opera was a decade or two ago.

    #2 Second I have no reference to cloudflare in any of FF based browsers I looked at, perhaps cloudflare is also the owner of 1.1.1.1 DNS, so is pretty obvious that if you use that DNS there are requests to it, no matter the browser you use

    #3 Not sure what do you want from me, I'm not the FF support, nor its complaints inbox, I'm an user of a discussion forum and I reply to whatever I find interesting.

    The point is the biodiversity is gone. Presto was killed, trident was killed, no one hes the resource to start a web engine from scratch, so there is no "want".

    What we can do is to limit the damage using the best out here, and the best ATM is called Vivaldi. FF flavours are too close to plain FF or too diverged making them useless on many websites.

    Wow palemoon's devs made the discovery of the tap water.

    Like I said earlier in this thread Vivaldi guys spent at lest 6 months to degooglify chromium, and it's still a continuous job.

    Why de-firefoxify something should be any different?