[DISCUSSION] Browser Support for Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Chuterix, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. CaptainSpeleo

    CaptainSpeleo MDL Expert

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    I have not kept up with this, so it may have already been discussed.
    I updated Mozilla Firefox this morning in Windows 7 Pro 64-bit to version 115.0.
    After it updated and reloaded, it displayed a message which said version 115.0 will be the last version for Windows 7.
    It also said the ESR version will need to be used from this point on, in order to keep receiving updates until September 2024.
    Will this switch occur automatically for the next update, or does the ESR version need to be manually installed?
     
  2. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    ESR to firefox is the same thing LTS is for ubuntu or LTSB/LTSC for windows.

    They are "the same thing" to the undtrained eye, but they come from different channels.

    Automatic updates (if enabled, if any) is intended normally for the older LTS/ESR/LTSC release.

    In short, if you have a normal release, you must uninstall it (retaining the profile) and install the ESR manually.
     
  3. CaptainSpeleo

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    I guessed I will need to manually install the ESR version, but I was not sure.
    Thanks for your reply.
     
  4. Probably not. I suspect that you will be automatically moved to ESR when v116 will be released.
    Similar situation happened with Windows XP version in the past.
     
  5. CaptainSpeleo

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    #325 CaptainSpeleo, Jul 6, 2023
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    It updated this morning to 115.0.1
    I'll wait to see what happens when 116.0 is released.
    Thanks.
     
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  7. markokk888

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    The "real" opera is way older than 2013. the last true version is 11-12 around 2011. after that everything was redesigned the engine is also changed.
    the best option is to switch to linux.
    the other real option is to use different browser that is still supported. its crazy that support is dropping back and forth on 7 when security updates are still produced on some variants of the os.
     
  8. acer-5100

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    #329 acer-5100, Jul 9, 2023
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    The switch from presto to chromium was announced in 12 February 2013, the first rudimentary version of Opium happened few months later (28 May 2013)

    Until then Opera 12 was still a supported product.

    After that point Opera 12.15 - 12.16 - 12.17 were released given Opium was still in beta status.

    Opera 12.18 with minor updates to some SSL components was released (for windows only) in 2016.

    That said we can debate about what "the last true version" means.

    Jon (the Opera co-founder) obviously considers Opera 11 the last true one, as Opera 12 was released when he was already forced out the company he founded, but there the technical considerations are (understandably) mixed with personal ones.

    And for the record the great Presto engine still lives (at least the last time I checked) it's the engine is used on the server side rendering used by OperaMini (which I consider one of the most important SW ever, given it allowed practically everyone to use the Mobile internet, no matter the power of the device, no matter the bandwidth available, ages before Android and the useless first Iphones were released.)
     
  9. markokk888

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    Well great times. but its all now a china's company. i never liked the new opera. anyway the point is to move somewhere else. move to some browser that is still supported. im not gonna hold windows 7 forever, will move to linux eventually but for now alternatives are appreciated.
     
  10. kaljukass

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    Portable versions requires patches at source level.

    In normal chromium based browsers you can put the profile in the path you like, so also on a pendrive. But that's a way different thing than a real portable version. You loose cookies, passwords and alike each time you use it in a different PC or even on the same PC using as different user.
     
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  14. GrofLuigi

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    Yes, I always block the installation with firewall. Then I delete updaters, if any (services, files and tasks). I also have policies in place against updating.

    I have 109 ent. installed, but I don't have the .msi. And I think the .msi was updated, so I want to check.

    Thank you.
     
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    good