[DISCUSSION] Browser Support for Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Chuterix, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. alzcoew397

    alzcoew397 MDL Senior Member

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    nobodys care for 8/8.1 almost everyone here for 7 .when 7 updates ends everyone will jump on 10 or 11 i guess. so even they are programs that can patch to work on 8.1 ,noon e gonna care. thats the truth.
     
  2. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    It's the win 7 room so, it's the discovery of the tap water.

    As for win8.x, speak for yourself. Something we don't really need is the "OS racism"
     
  3. alzcoew397

    alzcoew397 MDL Senior Member

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    yeah yeah whatever, bye.
     
  4. ssjkakaroto

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    Does anyone know if there's a way to replace the embedded Chrome browser in Steam with one that's still compatible with Win7?
    Apparently, Steam will stop working on Win 7 on January solely because of Chrome.
     
  5. BernieBildman

    BernieBildman MDL Junior Member

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    Would you care to outline the tweaks to enable Opera 101 to run on Windows 7 Pro 64bit ...Thanks
     
  6. yoloboy2001

    yoloboy2001 MDL Novice

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    Well thank you @alzcoew397 I didn't know that my name is "nobody" but good to know.

    Thank god I was never that thoughtless to reduce an entire Operating System to it's Start Menu. If you couldn't handle Windows 8, I think it's your own lack of intelligence. It was/isn't hard lol. Furthermore, I will not go into the whole Windows 7 vs Windows 8 debate now, as you cannot change people's burned in opinions. General facts about the speed and responsivenes of W8 in comparsion to W7 are more than widely available all over the internet, so you can read it if you like. Idc. I didn't came here to fight with critics about their view on an specific OS. Keep your opinions for yourself. I only underlined the FACT that newer browser versions work better on 8.1, because of dll/api reasons and that must have hurt your feelings I guess. My bad. Well then go and enjoy your Firefox 115 ESR till next year.

    @BernieBildman I haven't tried it on Windows 7 but I think it wouldn't work on it anyway. Chromium 112 and up use a function called "DiscardVirtualMemory" which was first introduced in Windows 8+

    It was easy to get it running on 8.1. All you needed to do was change DiscardVirtualMemory to VirtualAlloc (Cff Explorer), place a DWrite.dll from Windows 10 to the Opera folder and create a shortcut of Opera at the desktop. As usual, you need to put --no-sandbox at the end.
     
  7. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Yeah, if you read back in the thread, the first "unsupported" releases of Vivaldi and Opera, actually worked out of the box in Win 8.1, but didn't work on W7 even after a ton of tweaks using CFF, on more recent releases the matter can only get worse.
     
  8. dziugas1959

    dziugas1959 MDL Novice

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    I would like to know myself, sadly I can't find any info or any alternative clients that are actively developed.
     
  9. ExiledRose6084

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    Maison1 MDL Novice

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    #391 Maison1, Aug 17, 2023
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    ;-)
     
  12. nintendo1889

    nintendo1889 MDL Novice

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    offtopic, but kmeleon works and is very fast on old hardware, BUT it has tls/ssl issues.
     
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  14. George King

    George King MDL Expert

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    Use CFF Explorer, its easy to mod Major / Minor versions here
     
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  15. darkrats

    darkrats MDL Junior Member

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    CFF Explorer works better than the Editor I was using, but I've taken one of the .exe files and searched diligently for where to make the changes and still can't see what I am looking for. If someone could modify just one of the files and post it somewhere so I could get a clue, I'd appreciate it. When you don't have the skills that others have, it is sometimes difficult to know what you're looking at.
     
  16. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    I haven't the sw installed here, but on the left panel, it should be in the additional nt header properties (something like that), then on the right panel scroll down there are three major values (commonly set to 4 or 6 or 10) and three minor values usually set to 0/1/2/3, edit all the six values and save the file.

    Obviously major 6, minor 3 means win8.1/server2012R2, major 6, minor 0 means vista/server 2008 and so on.
     
  17. darkrats

    darkrats MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks for that. I am now looking at the 3 major values and the 3 minor ones. In the right hand panel there are 4 columns: Member, Offset, Size and Value. But there are no regular numbers. For example, under the Member column there is "MajorOperatingSysytemVersion", under the Offset column there is "000000B8", under the Size column there is "Word", and under the Value column is "000A". I'm thinking those need to be converted using a formula of some kind. By the way, what would be the major and minor values to input (as you gave for 8.1 etc) for Windows 7?
     
  18. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    000A is hex and translates to 10 in dec. Most probably Windows NT 10.x or higher. Try changing it to 0006 and Minor to 0001, means 6.1 = Windows 7.
     
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