[DISCUSSION] Linux Mint

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@TinMan: you can switch to Slackware which has Cinnamon in their repos. Slackware uses sysinit V.

 

Thanks for the heads-up, Socrate, but I plan to stick with LM 17.3 for the next couple of years, until it is supported and by then... Well, I guess I'll keep learning and then see what would be the best distro to switch to

 

Fedora is amazing

I tested several distros including Linux Mint, Ubuntu and OpenSUSE. Mint and Ubuntu only had bugs and slowdowns.

OpenSUSE is very easy to use because of Yast and 1-Click Install. Very stable, robust and fast but I do not like KDE.

I prefer to use graphical environment that is the focus of each distro, so I chose Fedora. It is fluid and stable. With Gnome is excellent

 

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Even though Mint is based on Ubuntu, I wouldn't ever run Ubuntu on my machine as main OS. Mint is just perfectly polished, can't get that Mint feeling with a Cinnamon Ubuntu.

 

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I used Mint Cinnamon about a year, until they were totally hacked. Even their posted ISO's were hacked. I don't trust them anymore. Very amateurish. Really lame. They seemed to have their heads stuck in the ground. Mint always seems to be behind the curve and playing catch up to Ubuntu.

Ubuntu currently is 16.04, Mint is 14.04. Ubuntu 16.04 runs faster on my Dell than the current Mint. Ubuntu has a much larger support team behind it. Ubuntu gets the latest security updates that Mint ignores. Ubuntu has never had a security breach that Mint suffered. I can easily switch between Cinnamon, Gnome and Unity on Ubuntu simply by choosing the desktop at login. The best of all worlds for me.

My only objection to pure Ubuntu is Unity, and i can fix that with Cinnamon. I wouldn't go back to Mint now. Doing so seems to me like accepting second best. Mint is following Ubuntu. Ubuntu is not following Mint. Why accept an alsorand?

Other than that, I don't have a good reason.

 

As I recall, the Mint website was altered to re-direct downloads to an unauthorized server which was hosting an altered .iso file. It was discovered and fixed in less than a day. The Mint team learned a valuable lesson in security and several positive changes have resulted. In any event, the altered .iso was easily detected by checking the hash, something everyone should do to insure the download was not corrupted. In my opinion, this one incident does not rise to the level of "totally hacked".

Linux Mint 18 will be based on Ubuntu 16.04 and is expected to be released in a few weeks. But don't forget that Ubuntu is based on Debian, so following your reasoning, you should switch to Debian with Cinnamon desktop. Of course then you will miss out on all the polish and extra features that Ubuntu and Mint add to their releases.

I would not be surprised if one day an official Cinnamon version of Ubuntu is release, following the same process as Ubuntu Mate. The great thing of Linux is that everyone is free to use what they like best, and if it does not exist, then to make their own like you have.

 

Mint is on track for 16.04 in the June release I believe.

 

Hi dudes, well I made install of Linux Mint 17.03 this night in main machine and works like a charm ;yet on laptop I continue with Ubuntu 16.04 also no problems, one thing that I see Linux Mint remember a lot one old O.S. that I already use lol but with millions of things better yay

 

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Hey, everyone!
I messed up driver for AMD HD5850 on my production desktop and I have to reinstall my Mint Cinammon 17.3 64-bit... No big deal, it will take me about half an hour, but before I do that, I'm actually considering trying LM 18 Cinammon. However, when I booted from Live Session USB, just after the splash screen, my monitor went into sleep mode and I couldn't get to desktop... I've tried adding the "nomodeset" to the UEFI boot menu, and then it worked, but Cinammon only run in the software rendering mode and the only item I got in the "Drivers" module was the "intel microcode"...
So, my question is: has any of you had the same issue with an AMD discrete graphic card when installing Linux Mint 18 Cinammon x64? How did you resolved it?

Thanx!

P.S.
I haven't posted this question on the Linux Mint forum yet, I thought I should try on my favourite forum first

 

I thought the newest Ubuntu and anything derived from it no longer supported proprietary drivers (at least having them built in like the older versions). My card is not supported in any of the newer or older versions of Linux, so the screen flashes different colors, and the performance sucks even with the proprietary drivers installed. It seems especially with just the open source drivers available from within the OS, that even less people will have success with Linux, which I'm assuming the number of people with a perfectly working Linux OS on their PC is roughly about 3 or 4.

 

After using several "proprietary" drivers, I now use only the built-in Mint drivers. For my purposes, they work just fine.

In VirtualBox, you can stop it from running in software rendering mode by enabling 3D Acceleration. Maybe you can do that in your setup.

 

You're right, AMD's Catalyst fglrx drivers are no longer supported in Ubuntu 16.04 and, by that, in Linux Mint 18 because they are not compatible with Xorg 1.18, which is the version used in these two distros. From Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon release notes: "If you are using an ATI GPU in Linux Mint 18, the operating system will either select the Radeon or AMDGPU drivers for you, and these are installed by default." I have an old HD5850, which is recognized as "radeon" and the drivers were successfully installed, with hardware acceleration, DRI...

Which graphics card do you have? Intel? nVidia? AMD? Hybrid? Maybe someone on this forum could help you resolve the issue...

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As for my question in the original post, I'm happy to tell you all that I've managed to install successfully Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon on my production desktop... I've figured out what I was doing wrong during the installation: it turned out that my TV, connected via HDMI, was causing the trouble. For some reason, it is always recognized as the primary display during the installation process and the desktop display monitor switches off at login screen It happened to me also years back when I first installed Windows 7 and, more recently, while installing Linux Mint 17.2... So, once I've disconnected the HDMI cable, the installation was a breeze, it took me only 20 minutes or so

And, since I have a separate /home partition, all my settings were preserved - all I had to do was to install a few programs I had installed in LM 17.3 and everything is now working like a charm! Although, the color scheme in Terminal was borked, but I've fixed it, as well as a problem with gvfsd-smb-browse process using 100% on one of the CPU's cores... If any of you has those issues, let me know, and I'll post a simple fix...



Anyway, from what I could see, LM 18 is noticeably faster than LM 17.x

So, again and again...

 

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