[DISCUSSION] Microsoft Office 2019

Discussion in 'Microsoft Office' started by ratzlefatz, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  2. Pareto Optimal

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    The ISO's on page one are new as of late April 2020. Do they not update once installed? I thought Office 2019 was a buy once and done with no updates. If you want updates, you have to buy a later Office 2019 in the future.

    Now I'm reading that 365 has more features than 2019 and comes with updates. So, is 365 the way to go?

    If so and I've already installed 2019, do I have to use a tool to completely remove 2019 before installing 365?

    Is 365 an online install only?

    Thank you
     
  3. loveleeyoungae

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    Both have updates, but 365 has more features or gets new features sooner than 2019.
    365 can be installed offline. 365, 2019 or any Office ISOs of the 365-2019 era (OneNote, Project, OfficeStandard etc.) have same source files, except the "setup.exe" files. So you can either:
    1. Use any Office ISO with the 365 setup.exe
    2. Download the 365 ISO and use it
    3. Use YAOCTRI with any Office ISO: Recommended as it has many options to choose. Remember that if you use this tool to install 365, choose "Disable Telemetry: False"

    That's the info for your consideration.
     
  4. Windows_Addict

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    From it's read me,
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    * Disable Telemetry option is not processed for "Microsoft 365" suites because it affects features
     
  5. Pareto Optimal

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    Thanks, loveleeyoungae! I seem to remember from long ago that there's a thread on MDL with all the EXE files to use with an Office disc. Is that so? Could you point me where to find it? Thanks
     
  6. tf

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    Professor @abbodi1406 I have a few questions please:

    1) Is Microsoft 365 Enterprise [installed and activated through your scripts YAOCTRI (the volume flavor) and KMS_VL_ALL] is the same as the actual Microsoft 365 Enterprise (activated through retail keys and subscriptions) in terms of features and updates?

    2) Will Microsoft 365 Enterprise installed and activated through your scripts (Update Channel set to: 3. Current / Monthly) get updates through Windows Update or inside the Office app? if inside the Office app, is it automatic or needs to be checked for updates manually?

    Thank you very much in advance.
     
  7. Windows_Addict

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    Any O365 product doesn't have volume license, hence it can not be activated with KMS.
    Mondo 2016 is a volume product closest to O365, featurewise. However, it lacks exclusive online features of O365 but it's better than O2019 in features and latest updates wise.

    YAOCTRI and KMS_VL_ALL simply install mondo 2016 licenses in order to activate installed O365 product.

    From YAOCTRI read me,
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    - Microsoft 365 Enterprise will be installed as Retail SKU, then converted with Mondo 2016 Volume licenses 
    additionally, O365ProPlusRetail grace key will be installed to enable more features
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    MSI installer based office can be updated with windows update.
    C2R installer based office has it's own update mechanism and its update and setting can be managed inside the office app (file > account). It can not be updated with windows update. Latest O365 setups come in C2R format.
     
  8. tf

    tf MDL Novice

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    Thank you very much.

    So I must check and install office updates manually each month?

    Also, can I convert a C2R installer into an MSI Office based installer in order to get updates through WU? Which method do you recommend please?
     
  9. Windows_Addict

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    C2R based office has an auto-update feature.

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    C2R based office can not be converted to MSI based office.
    If you want updates through windows update for some reason, install office 2016 MSI volume, there is not much difference in 2016 and 2019 anyway.

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    Personally I prefer C2R based office because of the following reasons which lacks in MSI office,

    - Easy to get the office files with the latest updates included.
    - Fast to install with all updates. (MSI is terribly slow to install if you include latest updates)
    - C2R files are unified, means from one source you can install all possible products with volume and retail channels of office with YAOCTRI.

    I don't have any reason to dislike C2R office.
     
  10. tf

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  12. abbodi1406

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    @tf
    i will see if i can add option to install ProofingTools

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    no, this will complicate thing in YAOCTRU
    it's easier to separately generate proofing tools

    you can create two copies of YAOCTRU_Generator.cmd to generate the files unattended
    delete YAOCTRU.ini

    edit first copy (e.g. named YAOCTRU_Generator-Full.cmd) and only set these options:
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    set "uLanguage=en-us"
    
    set "uBitness=x64"
    
    edit second copy (e.g. named YAOCTRU_Generator-Proof.cmd) and only set these options:
    Code:
    set "uLanguage=de-de"
    
    set "uBitness=x64"
    
    set "uType=Proof"
    
     
  13. tf

    tf MDL Novice

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    Thank you very much.

    I was thinking that having all the choices and options in a row would be easier and nicer, and it would be up to the user to toggle ON and OFF which proofing languages he select (none may be the default), then proceeds to download all the selected options as a single package, which in turn is to be installed with YAOCTRI. My goal is to include proofing tools in the initial deployment of Office, not to add them later to an existing installed office package. All this may be a crazy idea; nonetheless, I wanted to share it with you. I can not praise and thank you enough for your amazing scripts.
     
  14. KleineZiege

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    how can I change the update channel of office 2019. has someone maybe a cmd script with which can do that ?
     
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  17. tomkeet

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    #3078 tomkeet, Jun 30, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2020
    Hi, daft question, Down loaded Office 2019 from first page, installed (C:\ drive), converted to VL and activated fine, all Apps.
    Also used "Office R Tool2020 Jun12 2020" for the Single Apps I wanted with no problem.
    Would prefer Office 2019 on my D:\ drive if that's possible? If someone could point me in the right direction would be most helpful.
    Thank you in advance.:confused::)
     
  18. alexxf

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    Not possible
    Office C2R is restricted to system drive C: by design.
     
  19. tomkeet

    tomkeet MDL Novice

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    Thank you. :(:(