[DISCUSSION] Microsoft Office 2019

Discussion in 'Microsoft Office' started by ratzlefatz, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. OzTechGeek

    OzTechGeek MDL Junior Member

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    The only way to get the "Volume" edition is to follow Post #1 there is no serperate files/ISO/IMG for "Volume".

    Yes "Retail" and "Volume" are the same files just different license activation
     
  2. juancito1968

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    Hi, tx for replying.
    It's 01:36 A.M. and my neurons are quite burned to do so right now, so I will leave it for the late morning.
    Common Files on Windows 10 always have been left on C:\ as per the Users and Program Data folders, but if you say I can move them too I'm quite interested in.
    Just let me do one step a time: too much infos at the same time disorient me.
    By now it's the turn of Office, then I'll check the remain.
    Yours and good nite (2 me).
     
  3. OzTechGeek

    OzTechGeek MDL Junior Member

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    #703 OzTechGeek, Sep 30, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
    I may not have explained what I was talking about correctly so here goes:

    When a new build is released and you run "setup.exe /download configuration.xml" it will download the ENTIRE file library for that new build, so here are the versions of Office 2019 released to date:

    2018-09-27 16.0.10827.20138
    2018-09-24 16.0.10730.20127
    2018-09-09 16.0.10730.20102

    Now since the GA release of 16.0.10730.20102 I have run "setup.exe /download configuration.xml" to download to my local "repo", here is what my "repo" looks like as of today:

    C:.
    | ProPlus2019Retail-Current.cmd
    | ProPlus2019Retail-Current.xml
    | setup.exe
    |
    \---Office
    \---Data
    | v64.cab
    | v64_16.0.10730.20102.cab
    |
    \---16.0.10730.20102
    i320.cab
    i321033.cab
    i640.cab
    i641033.cab
    s320.cab
    s321033.cab
    s640.cab
    s641033.cab
    stream.x64.en-us.dat
    stream.x64.en-US.dat.cobra
    stream.x64.x-none.dat
    stream.x64.x-none.dat.cobra

    C:.
    | ProPlus2019Retail-Current.cmd
    | ProPlus2019Retail-Current.xml
    | setup.exe
    |
    \---Office
    \---Data
    | v64.cab
    | v64_16.0.10730.20102.cab
    | v64_16.0.10730.20127.cab
    |
    +---16.0.10730.20102
    | i320.cab
    | i321033.cab
    | i640.cab
    | i641033.cab
    | s320.cab
    | s321033.cab
    | s640.cab
    | s641033.cab
    | stream.x64.en-us.dat
    | stream.x64.en-US.dat.cobra
    | stream.x64.x-none.dat
    | stream.x64.x-none.dat.cobra
    |
    \---16.0.10730.20127
    i320.cab
    i321033.cab
    i640.cab
    i641033.cab
    s320.cab
    s321033.cab
    s640.cab
    s641033.cab
    stream.x64.en-us.dat
    stream.x64.en-US.dat.cobra
    stream.x64.x-none.dat
    stream.x64.x-none.dat.cobra

    And Currently:
    C:.
    | ProPlus2019Retail-Current.cmd
    | ProPlus2019Retail-Current.xml
    | setup.exe
    |
    \---Office
    \---Data
    | v64.cab
    | v64_16.0.10730.20102.cab
    | v64_16.0.10730.20127.cab
    | v64_16.0.10827.20138.cab
    |
    +---16.0.10730.20102
    | i320.cab
    | i321033.cab
    | i640.cab
    | i641033.cab
    | s320.cab
    | s321033.cab
    | s640.cab
    | s641033.cab
    | stream.x64.en-us.dat
    | stream.x64.en-US.dat.cobra
    | stream.x64.x-none.dat
    | stream.x64.x-none.dat.cobra
    |
    +---16.0.10730.20127
    | i320.cab
    | i321033.cab
    | i640.cab
    | i641033.cab
    | s320.cab
    | s321033.cab
    | s640.cab
    | s641033.cab
    | stream.x64.en-us.dat
    | stream.x64.en-US.dat.cobra
    | stream.x64.x-none.dat
    | stream.x64.x-none.dat.cobra
    |
    \---16.0.10827.20138
    i320.cab
    i321033.cab
    i640.cab
    i641033.cab
    s320.cab
    s321033.cab
    s640.cab
    s641033.cab
    stream.x64.en-US.dat
    stream.x64.en-US.dat.cobra
    stream.x64.x-none.dat
    stream.x64.x-none.dat.cobra

    Okay I understand that it just appends the downloaded files and replaces the "v64.cab" with the latest version, this is done so that "locally" when you run "setup.exe /configure configuration.xml" it will read "v64.cab" and know "16.0.10827.20138" is the latest and install that version. It also gives you the ability to go back and install a previous version if you wanted to using the "Version=" setting in XML. This is what the MS Office CDN servers look like.

    What I was talking about was MS including the ability to have a SFV, zsync, delta version of lets say "16.0.10730.20102" to "16.0.10730.20127", then "16.0.10730.20127" to "16.0.10827.20138" or just using "16.0.10730.20102" as the base and doing a delta to "16.0.10827.20138" (This is probably not be best choice since each time the file would be cumulative and keep growing in size) but a delta from previous build to current would be better, that way I dont have to re-download 2GB+ each time a new build is released for each architectures. Same way we do SFV for Windows ISO builds

    Interesting twist/reversal of normal MS, looking at the sizes of my stream files since release they have gotton smaller not larger :)

    16.0.10730.20102:
    stream.x64.en-us.dat 359 MB (377,169,072 bytes)
    stream.x64.x-none.dat 2.39 GB (2,574,212,992 bytes)

    16.0.10730.20127:
    stream.x64.en-us.dat 273 MB (286,392,729 bytes)
    stream.x64.x-none.dat 1.85 GB (1,995,449,819 bytes)

    16.0.10827.20138:
    stream.x64.en-us.dat 267 MB (280,762,287 bytes)
    stream.x64.x-none.dat 1.83 GB (1,972,561,850 bytes)
     
  4. tavrez

    tavrez MDL Addicted

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    So default installation of img files provided by MS will go on Monthly channel, which is not feature frozen and updates each month??
     
  5. OzTechGeek

    OzTechGeek MDL Junior Member

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    #705 OzTechGeek, Sep 30, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
    "Office 2019" in general is feature frozen, only security and fixes from now on, Does'nt matter which version is installed using IMG/ODT

    A "Office 365 Subscription" will get you the "Latest and Greatest" now and in the future.

    Now techincally from my testing "ProPlus2019Retail" defaults to the same "Channel" as "O365ProPlusRetail" but as to whether it would get new features I cannot say for certain right now.

    Also there may be another value/setting that is applied that determins if it's really "Office 365" vs "Office 2019" if anybody knows let me know I have all my testing install logs I can look through and see any other values/settings exist that it may be validating

    Anybody know of any new "Features" we could validate and see if they appear?
     
  6. tavrez

    tavrez MDL Addicted

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    So when we download from Monthly channel, depend on what config we use after download, we get two different products :D
     
  7. OzTechGeek

    OzTechGeek MDL Junior Member

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  9. hen1121

    hen1121 MDL Novice

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    I tried, the 2nd line with xml works :)
    The double click one do not read the xml and install only the standard one without visio/project

    Many thanks
     
  10. Simple07

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    #712 Simple07, Sep 30, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
    For some reason, Outlook takes a very long time to load profile after activation !! I use a remote KMS.

    Update:

    Solved, Deleted the profile and recreated, all is fine.

    Also, I had the below issue when attempting to activate using remote KMS:

    Installed product key detected - attempting to activate the following product:
    SKU ID: 52c4d79f-6e1a-45b7-b479-36b666e0a2f8
    LICENSE NAME: Office 19, Office19ProPlus2019R_Grace edition
    LICENSE DESCRIPTION: Office 19, RETAIL(Grace) channel
    Last 5 characters of installed product key: 8MBCX
    ERROR CODE: 0xC004F017
    ERROR DESCRIPTION: The Software Licensing Service reported that the license is not installed.

    In case some faces this issue, I converted from Retail to Volume again, and reactivated.

    I am not sure if this has happened during the first conversion from Retail to Volume or after attempting to change the update channel (which crashed)
     
  11. OzTechGeek

    OzTechGeek MDL Junior Member

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    Nope they don't already tried after I posted :), did a fresh install with no R2V conversion, but the option was still not there.
     
  12. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

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    abbodi1406 answered to post of mine, that you must click "sign-in",
    but then don't continue/abort. After this "trick", for example the
    "Insights" feature in Excel appeared. Maybe this works with the
    Equation option, too.
     
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  13. Simple07

    Simple07 MDL Addicted

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    Hi ratzlefatz,
    Can you check if the U option is working in the tool. It is crashing on me, i have reported it in post #688 of this thread.
     
  14. kazzkazz

    kazzkazz MDL Junior Member

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    hi
    i need help if possibile.
    I have already downloaded the ProPlus2019Retail.img file, and made an XML file to exclude some Apps.

    <Configuration>
    <Add OfficeClientEdition="64" Channel="Current">
    <Product ID="ProPlus2019Retail">
    <Language ID="it-it" />
    <ExcludeApp ID="Groove"/>
    <ExcludeApp ID="Lync"/>
    <ExcludeApp ID="Outlook"/>
    <ExcludeApp ID="Skype for Business"/>
    </Product>
    </Add>
    <Display Level="Full" AcceptEULA="TRUE" />
    <Logging Level="Standard" Path="%Temp%"/>
    <RemoveMSI All="True" />
    <Updates Enabled="TRUE"/>
    </Configuration>

    How can install from the img and xml file? Thanks.
     
  15. maxama123

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  16. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Don't do that, after installing O365ProPlus convert it to volume before opening any app
    and you may use free Microsoft account to get some extra features working

    other than that, there is no way to get all crown jewel features without actual O365 subscription license/account
     
  17. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    yes, xml only works with ODT setup.exe

    SKU setups already have integrated Product ID and Language, without ability to exclude any app or set any option