hey guys, do you suggest installing office 365 on a windows 10 machine or shoulg i go with office 2024?
Hey everyone, happy new year. I just tested the latest beta version of Microsoft 365 on Windows 8.1 (v2602) and it still works although EOL was 2301! v2602 will be the last "official" version for Windows Server 2016/LTSB 2016/1607
Sorry if this is already answered somewhere, but I'm kind of a newb, and have searched through the forums and am confused about a few things: 1) What's the difference between Office 2024 and Office 365 (is this now called Microsoft 365?)? Is it just the retail vs volume license channel, or are there feature differences? 2) Is office 365 the version with most features? 3) I see a lot of people mentioning Office 365 turns into Mondo 2016 - does that mean 2016 is the latest version we can have? 3) I thought Office 365 was subscription only with everything cloud-based - if that's the case, how can this be downloaded, then activated & used with tools like MASGRAVE? 4) What's the difference between retail & VL besides activation method - are there pros & cons to each? 5) There seem to be a lot of tools like masgrave, YAOCTRU and YAOCTRI, OfficeRTool, Office Tool Plus - do they all kinda do the same thing but differently, or does each have a specific purpose? It seems like masgrave pretty much does everything we'd need.. It's a lot of questions, but I feel like I've been going in circles through all of the forums for hours w/out really putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together. Thanks in advance for any help!
@mregdub 1) Office 365 = continuous features (and experiments) Office 2024 is feature-locked (no new ones), and is available as Retail too 2) yes, but some features are gated. online features will require cloud-subscribed MS account 3) Mondo 2016 is the mother (AIO) of all Office 16.0 SKUs because it's not ment to be used or can be officially activated, the product policies (licenses) are the closest to Office 365 therefore, Mondo 2016 licenses are used to convert Office 365 to Volume-ish state that can be activated with KMS 3) It's not, it's regular Office Click-To-Run, with extra cloud-based features that require active subscription 4) Ohook fool Office apps themselves to return activated state (without converting or changing licenses), but it can't enable cloud features like Copilot ZCID and KMS methods emulate and perform actual activation procedure 5) masgrave only gives you activation
Thanks @abbodi1406 , that info is really helpful. I ended up downloading O365ProPlusRetail (the very first one in the spoiler on p. 1) and activated using MAS w/ Ohook. I thought it would turn it into Mondo, but it says 'Subscription Product Microsoft 365 Apps for enterprise'. Does that mean it has fewer features than Mondo, or Pro Plus Retail for that matter? Would I need to change the version / product key or activation method?
You can consider Mondo 2016 to be equivalent to M365. Instead of getting hung up on which features are different, it's better to actually make use of Office. That's more practical than considering the feature differences here. One more thing: without a subscription, there are no premium features (like Copilot or 1TB cloud storage), regardless of the activation method used.
Thanks for the clarification. I already use a number of features in Excel, Word and Outlook, so I figured if anything I use is missing, better find out now than 3 months down the road. I also like to try out new features they come up with - some are pretty handy. I had Mondo on my old PC, but since I upgraded my SSD and did a fresh install, it seems I now have 365 Enterprise
Ohook = no converting or changing licenses KMS = convert to Mondo O365ProPlusRetail always hase the most features
Ah ok, that makes sense. I did activate w/ KMS last time. Do they otherwise each get updates just the same?
Please help me understand the following What limitations (present or future) are there in activating O365 by (a) ohook (b) mondo (why is ohook link disabled in the original post?)
a) fake activation state, works for all licenses Smart App Control and Antivirus can contain or interfere with the hook sppcs.dll ms could harden activation to force loading sppc.dll from system32 only b) emulated (actual) activation state, works for KMS licenses only ms could remove Mondo licenses, or limit its product policy features MAS was not allowed at that time https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/tsforge-activation-windows-esu-office-mas.88999/
Cheers! If I login into Office with an account, will it also automatically log me into Windows (as in Windows will recognize the login and on Start button, there will be that new MS account and not current local account)?