[DISCUSSION] Parted Magic

Discussion in 'Linux' started by Michelle68, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss Batch Scripter

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    But Windows MSDN ISOs can't also be legally distributed, right?
     
  2. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    Windows MSDN ISOs do not carry any license, and they are distributed by MS as-is. Essentially unlicensed Windows installations are like evaluation or demo.

    If this software can be used out-of-the-box without further proof of owning a license, then it's warez.
     
  3. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Senior Member

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    That (correct IMO) logic in theory should be applicable to any SW that's useless if not unlocked with a serial number, an online activation or whatever mean that provides the access to full functionality.

    Then there are the EULAs sometimes crazy, sometimes not fully valid in various countries and so on.

    Say the eula of VMware even forbids to publish benchmarks (of a regularly licensed product) which is likely BS in most countries, nevertheless you don't find benchmarks in any website because site's owners don't want to risk a trial with someone as big as Dell....
     
  4. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss Batch Scripter

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    Ok, so I did some digging,
    Parted Magic is technically free software (as in, freedom) but pay to download. Similar to Red Hat linux which is "free" but pay to support.
    So I don't think it counts as warez. Of course, I may be wrong.
     
  5. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    #205 Carlos Detweiller, Jul 16, 2021
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    If you pay for the download only and the software itself is free of any license requirement (e. g. GPL or similar), then, it's not Warez. However, it is a really dumb way by them of handling things. Either something is free, or it isn't. If one Samaritan pays for the download and then offers a mirror for free, what did they achieve?
    Server costs? Provide a Torrent, it will distribute by itself.
     
  6. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Senior Member

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    Well MS since the days of DOS acted this way, unofficially, and became one of the richest company in the world. REDHAT, SUSE & C. aren't exactly poor either.
    IBM that initially pretended to sell each copy of OS2 was forced to left the PC arena in few years...
    Apple pretended to sell even the mother of Jobs, survived just because the MP3.
     
  7. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    So, if they don't care, we do, neither.
     
  8. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss Batch Scripter

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    AFAIK, they are forced to do that because it is linux based and Linux is GPL licensed (cannot be used on non-free software)
     
  9. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Senior Member

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    You are forced to share the sources, not the binaries
     
  10. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss Batch Scripter

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    Yes, binaries can be made pay to download
     
  11. verndog

    verndog MDL Member

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    Parted Magic 2021_08_17 News
    This version of Parted Magic includes 100’s of system updates and adds some new programs.

    Updated to Slackware Current as of Mon Aug 16 19:16:42 UTC 2021
    linux-5.13.11.tar.xz: Upgraded.
    nvidia-driver-470.63.01-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Upgraded.
    nvidia-kernel-470.63.01_5.13.11_pmagic-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Upgraded.
    zfs-on-linux-2.1.0_5.13.11_pmagic-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Upgraded.
    bollux-0.4.3-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Added.
    clamav-0.103.3-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Upgraded.
    clamtk-6.13-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Upgraded.
    dupeguru-4.1.1.tgz: Added.
    dvdisaster-0.79.9-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz: Added.
    iperf3-3.1.3-x86_64-2_slonly.txz: Added.
    libreoffice-7.1.4-x86_64-1alien.txz: Upgraded.
     
  12. jim_p

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    Sums anyone? I know my output below is not as pretty or complete as the other users', but these are my cli skills :/
    Code:
    $ md5sum pmagic_2021_08_17.iso 
    dbb745f5ba65279361c2b430cd347c2e  pmagic_2021_08_17.iso
    $ sha1sum pmagic_2021_08_17.iso 
    efb8b465864d0d92726b317c276841b4550218ac  pmagic_2021_08_17.iso
    $ sha256sum pmagic_2021_08_17.iso 
    5e172da77c8342feec5f404d58be8a3b0b29a06d0f945885e437bffc1f9bc6dd  pmagic_2021_08_17.iso
     
  13. verndog

    verndog MDL Member

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    Thanks for the upload info. Wasn't sure if I could link it, since this is a paid program. I got info/link from nsane, if you know that site.
     
  14. Silexium

    Silexium MDL Novice

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    Parted Magic 2021_08_23 News
    This version of Parted Magic updates mesa and util-linux. The EFI warning in the MBR syslinux menu has been reworded to be more clear that you shouldn’t be booting your modern EFI machine in MBR mode.

    Updated programs: ModemManager-1.16.10, NetworkManager-1.32.10, bind-9.16.20, cryptsetup-2.4.0, cups-filters-1.28.10, e2fsprogs-1.46.4, gexiv2-0.12.3, glib2-2.68.4, gnu-efi-3.0.14, harfbuzz-2.9.0,, ibus-1.5.25, ibus-anthy-1.5.13, json-glib-1.6.4, libcap-2.53, libmilter-8.17.1, libnma-1.8.32, mesa-21.2.1, mozilla-firefox-91.0.1, network-manager-applet-1.24.0, nftables-1.0.0, ocl, icd-2.3.1, openssh-8.7p1, pango-1.48.9, pavucontrol-5.0, pycurl-7.44.1, stunnel-5.60, upower-0.99.13, util-linux-2.37.2, xfsprogs-5.13.0

    Rebuild programs: aaa_glibc-solibs-2.33, aaa_libraries-15.0, python2-module-collection-2.7.18, glibc-2.33, glibc-i18n-2.33, freetype-2.11.0
     
  15. jim_p

    jim_p MDL Senior Member

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    If anyone has any sums of 2021_08_23 please post them. Searching for an iso with that date is a mess because there was also another official iso last year, at the same date (2020_08_23)!
     
  16. mtwei

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    Parted Magic 2021_08_30 News
    This version of Parted Magic adds some requested backup options and updates some significant programs.

    Added programs: borg-1.1.17, fio-3.27, libb2-0.98.1, librsync2-2.3.1, rdiff-backup-2.0.5

    Updated programs: bluez-5.61, ibus-table-1.14.1, iso-codes-4.7.0, json-glib-1.6.6, libarchive-3.5.2, libcap-2.54, libgcrypt-1.9.4, libssh-0.9.6, man-pages-5.13, mozilla-firefox-91.0.2, openssl-1.1.1l, openssl-solibs-1.1.1l, qt5-5.15.3_20210826_21ea9c12, samba-4.14.7

    Rebuilt programs: pulseaudio-15.0-x86_64-3, python2-module-collection-2.7.18-x86_64-6

    Parted Magic 2021_08_30.iso
    MD5: 13466D5DA590D5ADFD9C50741002B5C4
    SHA-1: C707DE7898189C6565751049C41F1873D5FC68E8
    SHA-256: 4A624B70C57517054A959EA374CEC52317F59CF3B389C7001713C9B7917288F0