[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    The newest consolle I have is Pong

    I never touched a single extender in more than a decade, nor I know someone in person who did it.

    I can access remotely my main WMC thanks to DVBLink and/or ServerWMC and/or Emby and/or Plex, using a PC trough Kodi, WMC, Mediaportal,VLC, Media player classic and so on. I can use also a desktop or mobile Web browser and one of the Emby and Plex clients, and sice a week even via a remote desktop connection.

    So what's pointless?

    I can understand the extender owners, but you should understand that you are a tiny minority.
     
  2. bigjohns97

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    This, there are so many better options out there depending on what your needs are and what makes sense to the current situation.

    I personally use a mix of mini itx pc builds and possibly intel NUC's for bedrooms and serverwmc and/or emby and plex for mobile device access.

    I haven't tried anything over rdp in quite some time.
     
  3. reppend

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    That's kinda what I figured, which saddens me. Like I said, I've been through all of the various stages of living with the drawbacks of the PC 'extender'. My experience through my xbox extenders is strictly a 10 foot interface, remote control only. I simply want to turn on the TV, turn off the brain, and watch -- no tinkering. I found through vast experience that no matter the console through the PC, the xbox will always win in the 10 foot interface experience in this regard. I guess I will just have to stick with WMC7 to keep this advantage (I'll pass on the 8/8.1 debacle as well).
     
  4. T-S

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    Just read the first messages on this thread, would be pointless for me to repeat what I've written many times in this thread
     
  5. T-S

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    #3625 T-S, Feb 13, 2016
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    If you can't live w/o w10 think that a virtualized Thin PC installation can do the job w/o many hassles. If you read back on the first pages you will find that I've used that solution w/o much problems.

    Anyway Yes I use my WMC and its three meter UI on my main TV, but that task can be accomplished very well by Mediaportal, Kodi, Mythtv and other programs.

    What make WMC superior is the mouse friendly UI which is still unpaired by any of the competitors.
     
  6. crash2009

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    #3626 crash2009, Feb 13, 2016
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    Speaking in generalities.....The biggest problem we have here in the USA is more and more channels are being locked up with DRM on a daily basis. Half the East Coast has all the channels locked up. The rest of the country has Movie channels Locked. Extenders such as the Xbox helped to unlock those channels and spread your cable package around the buildings. For example, we can have the HTPC (with 32 tuners) and 5 extenders running off one CableCard, to do that with CableCo Cable boxes it would cost roughly an additional $180/mo (US Dollars) in addition to the $300/mo., we are paying all ready.

    Recently CableCo has been upgrading to MPEG-4 (h.264) which has pretty much disabled the Linksys and HP extenders. Echo and Xbox are having difficulty playing MPEG-4. We speculate PlayReady 1.3 needs an update from M$, whether or not we get it is "up in the air" presently.

    I see a little error here...HTPC and 5 extenders running one CableCard for every 6 tuners. as opposed to the CableCo solution which is one CableCard running 2 tuners with no centralized, sharable database of recordings.
     
  7. T-S

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    That said what I really miss is the circular buffer of MythTV.

    It records everithing you watch on TV until the assigned space is full, then it start to overwrite the older file.

    If you set something you're watching to be recorded, it just marks that file as not overwriteable.

    Which means that, even if you decide to record a program when it's already at 50%, you will get the whole program.

    It's an handy feature
     
  8. reppend

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    #3628 reppend, Feb 13, 2016
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    +1 Some of the detailed points I didn't feel like detailing, so thanks. Well said.
     
  9. Graznok

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    I'm trying to test Remote Desktop Connection on Windows 7 but I cannot launch Media Center from RDC while I didn't patched anything. Media Center starts from console session.

    This is a fresh Windows 7 install with all updates (eg. ehshell.dll version is 6.1.7601.19061 and Microsoft.MediaCenter.UI.dll version is 6.1.7601.17514).

    Sans titre.png
     
  10. crash2009

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    #3630 crash2009, Feb 13, 2016
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    RDP from Win7 to Win10, I have to have Win10 WMCv12 open, and tuned to a channel, prior to attempt to RDP from Win7

    Another thing....If you have a bunch of attempted RDP logins to win10, I have to reboot win10 or at least log out of all connections, prior to trying to RDP from Win7
     
  11. crash2009

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    #3631 crash2009, Feb 13, 2016
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    DRM working in RDP Session

    FALSE ALARM when I plugged in the remote and hit guide, this opened Win7 WMC in the 2nd monitor at the same time that RDP Win10 was open in the other monitor. Had me going for a minute. Hope you have a good chuckle out of this one.

    Something WEIRD just happened. DRM just started working.

    I was duplicating my steps to help Graznok, and I accidentally found a way to play STARZ CH 1980

    On the Win10 WMCv12 box

    1) right click start button/shutdown or sign out/sign out
    2) sign back in
    3) open WMC
    4) tune a non DRM channel (1711 used for test)

    On the Win7 Box

    5) right click Remote Desktop Connection
    6) log in with your normal login account on Win10
    7) open WMC
    8) tune non DRM 1711

    Go back to the Win10 box

    9) tune a non DRM channel (1705 used for test)
    10) Remove the USB Remote Dongle


    Go back to the Win7 box

    11) plug in the USB Remote Dongle
    12) try volume
    13) try change channel
    14) press the Guide button

    Here is the WEIRD PART.

    When I pressed the Guide Button on the remote a new WMC opened up in Full Screen Mode. I went directly to a DRM Channel STARZ 1980.....

    And it Played. It is playing "PERFECTLY" smooth motion, no artifacts, its just f***** PERFECT!

    I wrote this all down while it was fresh in my mind. Eventually we will shorten the amount of steps.

    My first guess at this point is simply launch MC with the remote will take you right there.
     
  12. bigjohns97

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    Just for the record i was agreeing with you :biggrin:
     
  13. Tree 5

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    #3633 Tree 5, Feb 14, 2016
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    DRM Question:

    When you update PlayReady to get DRM channels, I'm assuming it does some kind of check and then allows the extra components to be installed for DRM. It is possible to look at the files in PlayReady to see what it installs and maybe install those files all of the time? Then disable the extra checks media center does because if anything is broken in the chain, it stops working??

    I got a display port to HDMI adapter and hooked the surface up to a tv. Went to media center to play HBO. It went to update playready. It wouldn't update so I power cycled my Ceton tubers and hit try again. That time it worked and HBO played. ( I had to disable the display port) I tried recording and it recorded ok. So I disconnected the display port adapter and it all stopped.
     
  14. T-S

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    #3635 T-S, Feb 14, 2016
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    Yes. My message was intended generic, for people reading it, i took your quote just as an "excuse" to start my message. ;)
     
  15. crash2009

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    I would like to test RDP WMC from Win10 to a Win7 host

    I found the patched files, but I have not been able to find the path and destination instructions.

    Could you tell me where they are? or Who posted the instructions? or Approximately when they were posted?
     
  16. T-S

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    #3638 T-S, Feb 14, 2016
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    i wrote it many times, use the nice "link shell extension" to understand and manage easily the unix-like windows links
     
  17. Graznok

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    #3640 Graznok, Feb 14, 2016
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    Code:
    C:\Windows\system32>fsutil hardlink list C:\Windows\ehome\ehshell.dll
    \Windows\assembly\GAC_MSIL\ehshell\6.1.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35\ehshell.dll
    \Windows\ehome\ehshell.dll
    \Windows\winsxs\msil_ehshell_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.19061_none_8d647652a00996a9\ehshell.dll