[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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    #4901 crash2009, Jun 6, 2016
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    Would the adapter box also be known as a TA? and does it look something like this? Cisco or Motorola?

    If so, we just wasted our time today. You will get no signal to your tuner from that line without a TuningAdapter and a CableCard tuner.

    Your only hope to get the 1250 going is with an antenna.
     

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  2. Jas44

    Jas44 MDL Novice

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    #4902 Jas44, Jun 6, 2016
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    crash,

    Your posts have been helpful. Thank you! I have V12 installed currently. I have tried V10 and v11 also with the same result using cablecard tuner infinitv 4 pcie.

    I followed your notes

    installed Lav - Lav is a bit over my head
    installed Dca and Playready
    installed MC custom setup

    During setup I get playready component error- only way around is to stop service and continue to tv guide

    I just noticed it happens tuning all channels not just premium- When I maximize or minimize the display signal comes back fine

    Display driver error

    The video playback device does support playback of protected content


    Do you know what I can do to fix this? Your help is appreciated
     
  3. ThoseEyes

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    I found it, opened it, but it doesn't appear to do anything. No colors, no reports.
     
  4. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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    Sorry Jas, I'm done for the day. see ya tomorrow.
     
  5. ThoseEyes

    ThoseEyes MDL Novice

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    Good grief. I wouldn't have given that any thought since I had been getting the guide since getting the TiVo etc. But that was the old setup on Win7. I also wouldn't have thought about it because I can get a cable signal to a television without a box, it's what I'm seeing on here now, and it's what I see on another set in my house.
    Remember, I AM able to see live and manually record programming. The "only" problem is that the guide is blank.
     
  6. ThoseEyes

    ThoseEyes MDL Novice

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    Have a good night!
     
  7. ThoseEyes

    ThoseEyes MDL Novice

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    I went away, came back, and it's very happy. No errors, all the colors are green.
     
  8. sxotty

    sxotty MDL Novice

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    As I said that is similar to me. Although eventually I got past that and it launched, but the guide data would never work. Like I said if you want it to work reset windows. In the end it will take less time than fooling around with this for days.
     
  9. mwpeterson

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    Still no love getting HDHomerun Prime working on build 14352 with 32bit v12, but curiously speaker setup is working.
     
  10. crash2009

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  11. ThoseEyes

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    I'm not believing this.
    Yes, it's the middle of the night.
    Yes, I should be sleeping.
    But I woke up about an hour ago, couldn't get back to sleep and started thinking.
    If the problem was a result of my having changed provider services last year, and only come up because of the OS change now, maybe the solution would be to run setup again, but this time to merely say I had an antenna.
    To that end I went to the den, woke the sleeping computer, opened WMC and accessed the initial setup again.
    Lo and behold, for the first time in this go round, it offered me a list of providers. I didn't do anything any differently than I had before. I hadn't touched it at all since Crash went off duty hours ago.
    The scanning has finished, the program guide is populated.
    I have absolutely no idea what happened.
     
  12. crash2009

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    Congratulations!

    I woke up about an hour and a half ago. Reviewed the notes and summarized.

    Well that's a rap then.

    Go get a DVD and burn a System Image.
     
  13. ThoseEyes

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    Seriously? You're up too???? Of course we're in different time zones, but you shouldn't be up and on here.
    I'm trying to figure out where my old emails migrated to. I use Thunderbird, they should be around somewhere...
     
  14. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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    #4914 crash2009, Jun 6, 2016
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    I thought I smelled something burning.

    I don't know this for sure, from here, all I can do is guess..... It appears you have 2 signals coming through the coax....

    One encrypted...going to the TA/CableCard.

    One non encrypted...going to the Hauppauge and your TV('s). Your tuner and WMC recognizes this signal as an Antenna.


    When COX shuts off the non encrypted signal your Hauppauge will stop working as it is right now. You might be able to add an OTA antenna for that tuner. Have a look at TVfool to see what OTA signal you can receive, where you are. When the non encrypted signal is disabled by Cox in a couple months, WMC can continue working with either an antenna or a CableCard tuner. OR BOTH at the same time. With a CableCard tuner such as the HDHR-3CC you will require an additional TA and another CableCard. The suggested way to cable a dual TA setup is in the following picture. The 2nd TA would be for the Tivo. If you decide to keep it.

    EDIT.....Lucky you...TVfool says you have an OTA Transmitter up in the Hills, south west of you.
     

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  15. ThoseEyes

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    #4915 ThoseEyes, Jun 6, 2016
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    I actually have an OTA antenna attached to another television, and had considered putting it in there to see what might happen. Having it means I know pretty much what I can and can't receive with it. I haven't pushed the issue (because I only see it as being for testing or backup) but it doesn't receive ABC.
    I can run incoming coax to any digital (or analog) receiver without utilizing a box, that's how everything's set up at the moment. Whatever decoding (unencrypting?) they do is being done on their end for now, they're planning to change that to the user end on an outlet by outlet basis some time this year thus necessitating individual decoders. Supposedly they will be provided for free for a year, then will be $3/ea.
    Since it's just me, I'm unlikely to pay for additional equipment on more than one receiver.
    I think I said I'd gotten a deal on the TiVo... I own it, no monthly charge, and I paid $250 for it, less than we used to pay for a vcr.
    Another of my little quirks, I'd been watching things which had been recorded utilizing WMC remotely on a laptop via VLC, but since installing Win10 in there, I haven't been able to access it.
     
  16. crash2009

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    Punch these co-ordinates in to Win10/Maps. 35.945811, -115.043880 that is where your ABC tower is. TVfool will tell you what you need to receive the signal, if possible.

    You should be able to watch the recordings from any WMC on your network (without VLC). Look into Setup WMC Libraries. Using Libraries, share the RecordedTV folder on the Win10 WMC, then tell the Laptop WMC Library where to look.
     
  17. ThoseEyes

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    #4917 ThoseEyes, Jun 6, 2016
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    WMC isn't on the laptop, is there any reason for it to be? I got into using VLC when I would binge watch DVDs from the library... it allowed me to speed them up just a little<G>. Opening recorded television files from there had been simple, presently I can see them listed but can't access them, the network isn't allowing me to.
     
  18. ThoseEyes

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    #4918 ThoseEyes, Jun 6, 2016
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    I "should" be able to receive ABC with an indoor antenna, I just haven't fiddled with it. It's sitting horizontally on the highest point near the television, out of the way, out of sight, out of mind unless I need it. All told there are 18 channels in their green area. 4 more would be added with an attic mounted antenna (that's what I used for years in NJ). Another 6 would be added with a rooftop one. I doubt that either of the last two would add anything to my usage, it does even make me wonder a bit about the few folks around me who have them. I wonder if someone oversold them.
    At the moment, I have raw cable hooked up to the television's coax port, and it will stay that way until Cox gets their part fixed. Once that's done I can return to HDMI, hook the antenna back there, and see if I can improve things with small adjustments.
     
  19. ThoseEyes

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    A bunch of back and forth (and a 1.2 mile walk) later, I'm watching 60 Minutes on the laptop.
    It's moderately frustrating when things which had been working just fine stopped doing whatever it was and are resistant to being fixed.
    Next task I suppose will be to find and import the old T'bird files into the new install. That's another of those things which should have just happened all by itself, but didn't.
     
  20. T-S

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    For the record I tested WMC on the (almost) crap free Win 10 Enterprise S (aka LTSB 2016) build 14352.

    For some odd reasons WMC crashes on it unless you choose a the MS basic drivers for the VGA, although the same configuration on the same build of Win 10 Pro works flawlessly.

    I bisected the problem and the culprit is msmpeg2vdec.dll.


    Solution. just rename it to. msmpeg2vdec.old and use the LAV filters for everything. Or get the file from an older W10 version.

    I tested the one from W10 b10586 and it works perfectly.