[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. jspenc3

    jspenc3 MDL Novice

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    Well said Klownicle.

    For those in the US that have cut the cord, I can happily report my mediapc survived the upgrade to fully updated Win10 1607 Pro. I use WMC 8.8.1 with two SD HDHR3 (the older generation) and the guide appears to still be working and playback/recording OTA is fine (no cable, so no encrypted stuff, just from my attic antenna in east Orlando FL). All the themes, plugins (Emby), and functions still work great. My reason for upgrading: Forza 3 wouldn't run without doing it.

    My process:
    Make image of OS drive with Backupper.
    Extract WMC 8.8.1 to the D drive.
    Run backup settings.
    Turn off defer feature updates and let Windows Update run.
    Wait an hour while the wheels churn and play a movie on the xBone (yay Emby).
    Reinstall video and HDHR drivers and a few other updates.
    Run install for WMC 8.8.1 and wait a minute.
    Click on icon on desktop to launch WMC. Uh oh, hourglass, then nothing. Try again. Same thing, WMC is not starting.
    Go back to WMC 8.8.1 and run reset factory settings batch.
    Click on icon on desktop to launch WMC and get the glorious startup sound and a clean WMC.
    Close it, go back to WMC 8.8.1 and run restore settings.
    Click on icon on desktop to launch WMC and everything was almost back to the way it was.
    Reinstalled a few WMC plugins and mods. Checked tuners, guide, recording, scheduled recording, live tv, everything working great.
    Thanks for your work on the project, it's still alive and kicking for at least some of us US users!
     
  2. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    I have big doubts on that.

    WMC starts nicely even on 14393.447 (which is the latest update for the anniversary edition) both on LTSB 2016 and server 2016, so hardly something on LTSB 2015 is going to block WMC from starting.

    Very likely you have some messed config, just run the reset settings batch.
     
  3. shelbygt351

    shelbygt351 MDL Novice

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    Thanks, but I didn't see anything about CableCard, only DVBlink. Can't play Cablecard DRM content through VMware it seems.
     
  4. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    @T-S Hi dude:) ok maybe I make something wrong because on LTSB 2015 and LTSB 2016 WMC don't run !:weep: before with old install (july 2015) LTSB works fine and now NO :eek: actually I'm running LTSB 2016 x64 (14.393.447) that I make modifications with MSMG Toolkit including Fraunhofer MP3 Professional codec Tweak on my install.wim removed unecessary things and more nothing in sequence I make fresh install and all works fine (none bsod's) except WMC:confused: maybe some problem related to Fraunhofer Tweak?? still I reset settings two times and no sucess so my doubt into KB3200970 have some restriction by M$:g:please tell me the correct version of WMC only for confirm maybe I make something wrong while the damn hacker mess MDL:mad: thanks in advance :)
     
  5. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    Please tell me that it's WMC that has an issue running on ltsb 2016, and not all media players like vlc or mpc-hc...

    I'm about to install ltsb, and that would be a deal crusher...
     
  6. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    @Rickkins see my post above, waiting some help from T-S also ok
     
  7. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    As I said, reset your settings
     
  8. TOFnow

    TOFnow MDL Junior Member

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    @jspenc3, Thanks for clarifying that you were connecting OTA. And a request to other installers/troubleshooters, please specify both Win 10 build and Cable Card usage when reporting successful WMC connections.

    Thanks in advance! :tea:
     
  9. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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    #7609 crash2009, Dec 13, 2016
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    Unplug your Ethernet and disable your WiFi, so it cant update until you have time to disable it.

    Mine has been running like this for 9 months. Disable Update Service. Fairly simple actually. Made an Image the day I disabled updates. Still running fine. Using 10586 with HDHR-3CC with CableCard. As you can see is playing Starz which is a protected channel.
     

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  10. shelbygt351

    shelbygt351 MDL Novice

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    I bought PowerDVD to test its DRM capability. It works alright but damn is it slow to change channels. It constantly needs affirmation from Cyberlink to get the go ahead to unlock channels as needed. It doesn't even come with a guide. I'm thinking of returning it and just using Nvidia Shield but then I have to change monitor inputs and audio streams. This sucks.
     
  11. jessie

    jessie MDL Member

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    crash2009 did basic same thing but cat play protected channel how you do that ?
     
  12. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    @crash2009 yay thanks dude for help me, but I solved in another manner for several reasons I simply make one image of my system (LTSB 2016 where wmc NO run) and after format and install Windows 7 Ultimate I think this is more objective making this and no worried with all craps of Windows 10 ;)
     
  13. shelbygt351

    shelbygt351 MDL Novice

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    I bought a legit copy :p Seriously though, I tried a pirated copy to experiment with and a window popped up suggesting one of the reasons protected channels aren't working was because of the serial number I used (keygen provided). Probably why it pings Cyberlink to check everytime you change the channel. It was only a $50 digital download and refundable within 30 days.
     
  14. mva5580

    mva5580 MDL Novice

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    Yeah I meant it wasn't my intent to make it sound like PowerDVD was some sort of great solution or anything....it just works well for what I personally use it for. I'm not a huge TV watcher and when I do watch, I tend to know exactly what and when. It serves my purpose but I certainly understand people who want/need a guide, faster response, DVR, etc, it's just not going to work.
     
  15. shelbygt351

    shelbygt351 MDL Novice

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    After some consideration I'm keeping it. I don't channel surf nearly as much as I thought either, and I have TWC's TV schedule accessible, bookmarked at the top of my browser.
     
  16. small9

    small9 MDL Novice

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    Install 2015 ltsb on a stick pc works fine until some security update installed. The "Viewing or Listening Conflict - no tuner available to satisfy the current request" appear and no tuner detect.

    Uninstall all the security update, WMC back to work.
     
  17. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    @small9 good to know dude, thanks a lot :)
     
  18. bobfather

    bobfather MDL Novice

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    Confirmed, KB3205383 kills HDHomerun tuners on LTSB 2015.

    Sigh, I had really hoped this stupidity wouldn't make it to LTSB 2015, but it has. Unfortunately, I think this probably means every future cumulative update released will also kill HDHomerun on LTSB 2015.

    I'm now not so sure what to do, since the only way forward will basically be to turn off automatic updates, which is what I didn't want to do.

    Does anyone who knows better than me want to weigh in with all of our options?
     
  19. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    #7619 T-S, Dec 15, 2016
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    Assuming it's true (no offense, I'm always doubtful on very first reports) given KB3205383 is released after KB3198585 after just a month, the differences between the two should be relatively easy to figure out, using the good old Windiff from win98, or something more modern like it.
     
  20. jessie

    jessie MDL Member

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    Windows 10 LTSB 2015 and can get WMC doing the same as 393 anyone else have this problem or fix ?

    posted about month earlier