[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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  2. jeff2012

    jeff2012 MDL Member

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    What is the last stable version of win 10 1511 to work with WMC?

    Has anybody got 10586.753 to find their wmc tuners?

    Also, does it matter if WMC install preceeds version update or should version update of windows occur first?
     
  3. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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    I was replying to Fudsey, but it seems you both have different manifestations of the same problem. HDMI 4x4 Matrix Switcher would eliminate the necessity of working around the sound problem. The setup in the picture gives you sound to each TV (Destination) as well as to the AVR. This is done by using only one output from the video adapter.
     

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  4. jmsnyc

    jmsnyc MDL Junior Member

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    I've used standard hdmi splitter - it works but it has its only issues. The device you posted is overkill for my purpose. My other thought was using Chromecast / Google Groups to wireless speakers in liu of audio over hdmi. I have the speakers , just need to spend some time figuring out if I can get WMC to pipe its audio out to Chromecast
     
  5. crash2009

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    Yeah, it's likely overkill for mine as well, sure is sweet though. (anything anywhere or anything everywhere) I think the key is....using a powered HDMI splitter i.e. a splitter that remembers the handshake between the 2 devices that it joins. When I first received the Matrix Switcher, I had been powering the device off. When I turned it on, I had to fiddle with the source and destination. Likely had some of the same issues you and others experience. Someone told me to leave it turned on. The Matrix Switcher has been turned on since 2013...I have not had an issue since. Moving the AVR to the end of the line, rather than in the middle of the chain, eliminated issues as well. The Matrix Switcher makes the system completely idiot proof. Turn on the Source, Destination, and AVR, and it just works. I don't have to remember the order of ON, better yet, I don't have to explain it to anyone using the system.
     
  6. amoutie

    amoutie MDL Novice

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    I'm using MCE 8.8.1 on Win10 AU .693, Avermedia A835 Pro usb tuner, DVB-T channels, from Italy. No problem so far, I don't use pay-tv so all channels are free over-the-air dvb-t. Thank you very much to everybody who made MCE works on Win10, I still thinks it's the best program to watch tv on PC. :clap:
     
  7. davidm71

    davidm71 MDL Novice

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    Your lucky. I could not get mine to work with my Ceton tuners. So using Kodi with NextPVR plug in and I got to say I am very impressed. Can watch non-drm content no problem. Looks slick. I'm happy.
     
  8. shelbygt351

    shelbygt351 MDL Novice

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    It looks like Silicon Dust finally updated their Windows 10 DVR app to play DRM content. Works on my PC and laptop now.
     
  9. guho

    guho MDL Novice

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    Works for me too but the silky sweet smooth video quality of Windows Media Center has not yet been achieved.
     
  10. GrumpaTom

    GrumpaTom MDL Novice

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    Greetings,

    I really hate having to ask for the help but I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure out why I can;t get this thing running.

    I have the folling system:

    Intel NUC5PPYH
    Intel Pentium N3700 @ 2.4GHz 4 Cores
    Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0.14393)
    HDHomeRun Prime (20161117 firmware)
    HDHomeRun Setup (20161119)
    HDHomeRun App from Market

    I have used both Windows Media Center Builds:

    WMC_6.3.9600.16384_x64_v12.7z
    WindowsMediaCenter_10.0.10134.0.zip

    I have tried the following variations on the themes:

    Clean installs of Windows 10 - So many times I think I see Blue
    Make sure all drivers are updated
    Load HDHomeRun Software first, then Install WMC, Run WMC, Run DCA, Run Live TV Setup
    Load Install WMC first, then HDHomeRun Software, Run WMC, Run DCA, Run Live TV Setup
    Shutdown WMC, Sleep System, Run WMC, Run Live TV Setup
    Shutdown System, Run WMC, Run Live TV Setup
    Etc. So on and so forth.

    The multiple reinstalls was me trying the variations from the install point.

    The system does see the HDHomeRun as I can play it with the HDHomeRun App.

    I have reviewed a number of the posts through the thread but I just can't seem to find anything that is pointing me in the right direction to get this to recognize my HDHomeRun.

    Thanks in Advance for any help.
     
  11. crash2009

    crash2009 MDL Expert

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    14393 prevents cable card tuner recognization in all versions of WMC.

    Review this thread starting August 2 2015. That was the date of the first public release of 14393.

    CableCARD and WMC work fine in previous win 10 versions such as 10586.
     
  12. GrumpaTom

    GrumpaTom MDL Novice

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    I half suspected that was the case. Now the hunt begins for a copy of Windows 10 before version 14393.
     
  13. thedoomster

    thedoomster MDL Novice

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    If you're committed to WMC, you can use the Windows Restore to uninstall the Anniversary Update and get you back to 10586. Or, you can just purchase the Windows DVD Player for $15 and use the latest Windows HDHOMERUN app that now supports DRM - it even supports my old WMC remote control.
     
  14. thedoomster

    thedoomster MDL Novice

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    For WMC and the HDHOMERUN Prime, you may have to uninstall the Windows (Setup) software and install hdhomerun_windows_20150826.exe first in order to discover the tuner - that's what I've had to do a few times after a rollback. That version works fine with WMC. Just Google it to find one online.
     
  15. TOFnow

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    Might want to check the Store. I downloaded from there, it is free and it works with the Store app version of HDHomerun. View is now not part of the name as far as I can tell. Works with DRM channels in AU and above. May have to re-scan for channels to get it to see them.

    Hope this helps...
     
  16. jeff2012

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    It works with a cablecard like the Ceton use to? Namely to view AND record?
    Is there a phone app that lets you record while you are away on the fly?

    Thanks!
     
  17. TOFnow

    TOFnow MDL Junior Member

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    If this was addressed to me:
    HDHomerun app only works with SiliconDust tuners as far as I know. It will not record but a separate DVR ($$) from that developer is said to work with DRM recording and playback.
     
  18. crash2009

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    My original old Win7 box is my TV Server. Phenom 2, X4 965 (with a water Kuhler). 8 Gigs Ram. 20 TB storage, 120 GB SSD. AMD Radeon HD 6700. Tuners are Ceton InfiniTV4 plus a HDHR-3CC.

    I installed Server WMC Version 1.0.0.01 which grabs whatever has been configured in WMC....Tuners, Shared Library's, MyChannelLogo's, EPG, etc. and passes all that to Emby Server Version 3.1.4.0 I can connect to Emby Server from any workstation on the LAN, from any browser, (HTML 5 was installed on the older browsers such as IE10). I also connect via WAN from my Tablets and Phones. Non DRM Live and Recorded TV and Movies are available from anywhere. I am in the Great Lakes Region of USA, and have tested from Vancouver Canada and Bangkok Thailand. It is not necessary to install an Emby Client...All connections are made through a the simple web browser on a phone or tablet.

    I also connect from Win10 "10586" and "14393". The full EPG Guide is viewable. I can see what has been selected to be recorded, I have not discovered a way to select a show to be recorded. In other words the big red "Record NOW" button is missing. At present I have to use a different app "Ceton My Media Center" which has a "Record NOW" button.....In other words Emby can Stream Live TV but is unable to activate a recording. My Media Center can activate a recording but is unable to stream.

    Jeff...Try and find Ceton's My Media Center, you can record with that. TeamViewer can also be used. As I recall last spring we used RDP to do the same thing.

    As I understand it the HomeRun app is not quite ready. I thought the recent news was you can watch...but you cant record. Plex and (I forget the other one) are working towards a DVR plug-in.
     
  19. crash2009

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