[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    SOOOOO close :):):)
    if i click on the WMC taskbar icon it opens filling the screen fully, as it always has done.
    if i minimise WMC then maximise it, it then comes back withe the border showing and not in the same position as when it was first opened, like before.
    If i manually move the window, leaving that annoying pixel at the top, and then minimise and maximise it, it goes back to just having the one pixel at the top, which it didnt do before, before it would go back to showing the border and in the wrong position.
    However, this all gets reset if WMC is closed....
    Hope that makes sense.
    :):)
     
  2. j.c.f.

    j.c.f. MDL Member

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    Yeah, Launcher isn't going to change WMC's maximization from minimized state, that's all completely out of it's control. All Launcher is going to do it is if the WMC Launcher shortcut is run while WMC is minimized it'll maximize WMC and then move it to the location it should be (after a half second). You can access that functionality by pinning the WMC Launcher shortcut to the taskbar instead of the pure WMC one and win10's taskbar will behave like that's the WMC window (somehow it makes the right decision). If you then want to re-launch WMC while it's minimized you have to right click that taskbar icon and select the "Windows Media Center" option which will run Launcher, it'll see the WMC process is active and it'll see that it's minimized and maximize it and then move it. Just clicking on the icon will do the usual Windows maximization and WMC will make sure it's title bar isn't right off the screen.
     
  3. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    Way ahead of you, already pinned the WMC Launcher shortcut to the taskbar :)
    Is there a way to manually move the WMC window to not show the top pixel, like i mentioned before, the old right click and move?
     
  4. j.c.f.

    j.c.f. MDL Member

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    Sure, it's now a shift right click on the taskbar icon.
     
  5. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    #8865 Bigal, May 25, 2018
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    sweet, Thank you, I can use the arrow keys with the ctrl key, to move it one pixel at a time, but I cant figure out how to release it once in the correct position.
    Thank you for all your time on this, its sooo much easier now.
    why didnt it work for me on my system then?
     
  6. j.c.f.

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    A mouse click releases the movement on my machine. Just discovered the old method of right clicking on a aero-peek image of window still works, the shift-right-click is only for an icon. Looks like if I try and release a window with it's title bar off screen it moves back on. Not sure you're going to find a solution other than Launcher to move something off the screen.
     
  7. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    thats what i thought, the same thing happens for me, I will just use ypur launcher, thanks again
     
  8. sivartk

    sivartk MDL Novice

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    Thanks, that worked for me, too. I was having the same issue. My file version was dated Feb 2018. I renamed the new version NSVidCtl_1803.dll just in case I need it again. The hardest part was taking ownership to actually overwrite the file.

    I'm seriously looking into a Plex Pass and using their service as I have a dedicated 24/7 server that runs Plex and is powerful enough to handle the TV tuning, too. Granted, I'd have to buy a new tuner card. Now one thing I can't live without is the 30 second skip feature. I'm not sure if Plex DVR has that or not.
     
  9. boossy

    boossy MDL Novice

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    Hi,

    happy that WMC still works on the april update, but sad indeed that the thumbnails don't appear. In fact, the TVThumbs.db file remains empty.

    If I add the TV Recordings from my Win10 machine on a Win7 machine with WMC, the old recordings appear with a thumbnail, but new recording only show the blue rectangular on the Win7 machine.

    So I suppose that even if someone succeeds in restoring the thumbnails in Win10, that they will only appear for old recordings, not new ones.

    I still wonder what the difference is between a .wtv file dating before the update and a .wtv file recorded after the update...
     
  10. darkradeon

    darkradeon MDL Novice

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    On version 1803 WMC 8.8.1 is unstable even on a clean installation, at least on my setup (maybe it's an AMD video drivers fault?): BSOD, crashes, black screen, no audio or no video, stuttering. Tried to disable dynamic v-sync, freesync, to set the screen at 60Hz, to disable shader cache, to change the compatibility settings, to disable fullscreen optimization, nothing change: doesn't run well on bot windowed and fullscreen modes.

    I am currently using MPC-HC though it is a lot less usable and it doesn't support channels of difference bandwidth (7 vs 8 Mhz, aka VHF vs UHF channels, which is an issue on some countries that are still using some VHF frequencies for DVB-T) and the interface sucks.
     
  11. WGMaker

    WGMaker MDL Novice

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    I am using 1803 WMC 8.8.1 for a couple of weeks now, and none of these problems. dvb-s2, tuning, epg, (scheduling) recording etc. Full screen or in window, remote control, the lot. Only the thumbnail issue.

    Maybe dvbviewer is an alternative for you if you can't get it to work.
     
  12. jachin99

    jachin99 MDL Junior Member

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    Has anyone tried to install this on Windows 10 "Lite"? If its a stripped down version of the OS then it might not include playready, or some of the other things in windows 10 that have caused trouble for cablecard users. Just a thought
     
  13. jachin99

    jachin99 MDL Junior Member

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    One more thing, if your looking for plugins or addons for WMC, then quote my post or just let me know. There are quite a few out there but I think everyone has forgotten they all exist.
     
  14. darkradeon

    darkradeon MDL Novice

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    What graphics card do you have?
     
  15. radams

    radams MDL Novice

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    I'm having the thumbnail problem too as I posted awhile ago on Win 1803. I have two nvidia based EVGA Titan X cards running in SLI. (WMC v8.8.1)
     
  16. jgmack

    jgmack MDL Junior Member

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    What is meant by the thmbnail problem?
     
  17. nwtim

    nwtim MDL Novice

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    With support for Windows 7 and WMC ending in 2020, I've been looking for a way to extend my use of similar functionality - being able to record "copy many" flagged (non-premium) encrypted cable channels delivered to the PC via a HDHomeRun Prime (also have two Duals for OTA). I have not found a non-WMC solution that does what I want as well as WMC, and since Microsoft is not going to support the use of WMC in Win10 and they have committed to supporting Windows 8 with WMC through 2023, I'm looking to go that route.

    I've got Windows 8.1 Pro and just haven't installed it yet. Can WMC still be added to Windows 8.1 now that it is no longer considered current? At least that way I would have MS support until 2023 at which time hopefully these non-MS alternatives have a better functioning cable DVR.
     
  18. radams

    radams MDL Novice

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    See post 8802.
     
  19. jachin99

    jachin99 MDL Junior Member

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    These installers also work for win 8.
     
  20. j.c.f.

    j.c.f. MDL Member

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    Yeah, the thing I found out about the HDHomeRun Duals (the HDHR3-US specifically) was that they didn't have the CPU horsepower to talk the later HTTP protocols that MediaPortal and the like use. So not being prepared to fork out bucks for new tuners means sticking with WMC, for me at least. I have no trouble with the 8.8.1 installer (that will work with win8.1 but I think I'd shoot myself if I had to use win8.1's desktop experience), I use it in a window with my launcher so it's effectively a full screen experience but one that you can move your mouse beyond the WMC window (that I admit only has meaning if you have multiple displays but sure feels crippling if you do). Just upgraded one of my machines to 1803 and yes, replacing MSVidCtl.DLL was a bit of pain (taking ownership of it is one thing but then if you've run WMC recently the DLL will still be loaded in memory so you have to reboot and replace it before doing anything else -- assuming you had the foresight to set aside the old MSVidCtl.DLL before upgrading to 1803). Yes, thumbnails of recorded videos are missing, still better than forking out however many hundred dollars are needed for some new tuners ;)