[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    That's great news. I've sent you a PM/Conversation, whatever.
     
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    Kévin Chalet MDL Member

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    @rhahgleuhargh nice catch! I'll make sure I fix it in the next version :)
     
  4. jspenc3

    jspenc3 MDL Novice

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    Should we remove the v13 version from technodevotee and install the new 8.8.5 when it comes out? In particular does 8.8.4+ include all of the other dll patches and such that were in v13 (other than CPFilters)?
     
  5. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    Kevin's 8.8.4 includes fixes for all the problems caused by the modified DLLs including cpfilters without needing to do anything extra. Hopefully, it is also futureproof, whereas V13 was my attempt at an interim solution.

    But as long as it is working, there's no reason to remove V13 and install 8.8.X although it might be worth doing so next time MS break WMC.
     
  6. Bigal

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    I just wanted to say thank you to you guys for what you are doing.
    I finally got offered the 1903 update last week and updated and manually updated WMC and all was good, except the music library problem i mentioned before but dont want to turn off automatic download options off, will 8.8.4 resolve this issue?
     
  7. kidlazer

    kidlazer MDL Novice

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    #9489 kidlazer, Jul 29, 2019
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    First of all, thanks to all of you who continue to keep WMC alive. I've trolled this thread for years keeping my TV working and it's greatly appreciated.

    Onto business: I'm about to update my currently running system from 1803 to 1903. WMC was installed using the 8.8.1 installer and manually fixing the various dlls. What is the best way to backup all my settings and recorder schedules so that everything works correctly? I've tried using various backup methods in the past, including the BackupRestoreSettings.cmd, and it never works for me. It usually results in WMC not functioning properly or crashing so I just do fresh installs of WMC and setup everything from scratch. It's not the end of the world to do, but it is certainly becoming tiresome with Microsoft's update cadence.

    Also, I think I know the answer based on what I've read recently, but which is the best version to use to date? It appears Kevin's 8.8.4 now supersedes v13, correct?

    Thanks everyone.
     
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    #9491 bootloop, Jul 30, 2019
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    @kidlazer
    After trying all methods I've had the most consistently good results using Sean's WMC Backup as recommended above by Bigal.
     
  9. technodevotee

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    #9492 technodevotee, Jul 30, 2019
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    I don't understand why backuprestoresettings.cmd doesn't work for you. I've used it from day one and it works perfectly every time for me.

    OTOH, when I've used Sean's backup I only get certain bits of my schedule and the rest is missing.

    V13 was never intended to be the latest or greatest - it is an alternative to the V8 branch.

    I created it because I wanted to continue using WMC full screen in a Remote Desktop session (I don't care about playing video remotely or extenders) like I could in V12.

    I created the add-on fixes for all the problems we were having for my own use and added them to my installer.

    When I saw all the people struggling to keep WMC going, I made them available on line for use with other versions.

    I had never intended releasing V13 but I saw that people were asking for WMC that would run on later versions of 32bit Windows 10 and decided to do the same for the 32bit version as I had done for the 64bit one.

    When I made the 32bit version available, it seemed logical to make the 64bit version available at the same time.

    In summary
    V8.8.4 is the most recent version and It is being actively developed. It is easy to install and just works.
    V13 is based on old V12 files with a modified V8 installer. It requires extra steps to get it to work.
     
  10. randog311

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    I recently had Win 10 installed Version 1809 Pro & WMC-V8.8.4
    I am having issues getting the Guide to Load. I am making no sense of "Simple guide setup for Live TV by Gunnerhook" as to cmd line spacing etc. I just downloaded this SeanMauch and unzipped files however I don't know what to expect?
    I am using a Hauppauge Quad tuner card and WMC is steaming OTA live flawlessly as well as able to record live TV without a schedule.
    Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.
    I'm a Retired Pro Wrench, very Mechanically inclined however not much of a Computer Geek.
    Thanks, randog311
     
  11. kidlazer

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    #9495 kidlazer, Jul 30, 2019
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    Perhaps I'm not doing the steps in the correct order? Here's my usual order of events when I attempt to do this:
    -Run backuprestoresettings.cmd as admin to create backup
    -Perform OS upgrade (in this case, 1803 to 1903)
    -Run uninstaller.cmd as admin to remove the broken remnants of WMC
    -Reboot
    -Run installer*.cmd as admin
    -Reboot
    -Run backuprestoresettings.cmd as admin to restore settings
    -Launch WMC

    When I do this however, the tuner never works right. If i go through the TV setup process again to fix that, I'll end up with duplicate channel entries and other oddities. This is usually the point I get frustrated and just start completely over, setting up all my stuff from scratch. I always just assumed it's how Windows handles the hardware migration during the upgrade process, borking whatever settings get copied over from the backup. Am I doing something in the wrong order, or am I just extremely unlucky?

    Oddly, I've never had any issues with my guide data downloading, which appears to make me very lucky compared to most of us.
     
  12. randog311

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    I looked in the Event Viewer, Nothing flagged WMC, earlier today I performed a Win 10 Reset while retaining Files.
    I waited to connect the Internet until it was required to enter the Zip Code.
    Same results as before.
    Should I try a Full Win 10 Reset?
    I noticed some remnants such as WMC icon (Empty Shortcut) on the Desktop while retaining Files reset.
     
  13. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    #9497 technodevotee, Jul 30, 2019
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    Looks like you're just unlucky because you are performing almost exactly the same steps that I use. It certainly seems that the upgrade process reconfigures the tuners and the information in the registry no longer matches the settings in the WMC database. The only option that comes to mind is to configure WMC and let it scan for channels and populate the guide date then restore just the scheduled recordings.

    It would be interesting to compare what is in the WMC section of the registry before and after.
     
  14. technodevotee

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    The Media Center logs should appear under applications and services logs on the left hand side of event viewer. I would be very surprised if there nothing whatsoever in there.

    I don't know if a full Windows reset is necessary. It seem rather extreme to me but if you don't use the PC for anything else it may be the simplest answer.
     
  15. randog311

    randog311 MDL Novice

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    [QUOTE="technodevotee, post: 1539472,

    I don't know if a full Windows reset is necessary. It seem rather extreme to me but if you don't use the PC for anything else it may be the simplest answer.
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    I performed a Full Windows 10 Pro Reset (all Files removed) with Internet Unplugged, I turned off all permissions (Read: Big Brother is Watching you) with exception of Voice Permissions (I don't have a Mic connected anyways), I loaded WMC-V8.8.4 previously saved to D: Drive.
    Once I reached the Settings portion that asked for the Zip code I then connected the Internet.
    Bingo: The Guide had now populated and so far is performing flawlessly.
    Looks great on my 65" 4K Screen and I am very pleased with my new Graphics Card (MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB itx).
    Thanks again for all of your Replys, randog311
     
  16. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    do you also
    check there are no ehome dirs in
    C:\Windows
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft
    if there are follow the "Uninstall Note:" in the readme file