I'll rephrase my post, I've always had problems with WMC and it had made several new mcepg3-1,2,3..... It may have been bad timing but when i tried your prog, WMC threw a fit again. I could try it again now, as I only last night reinstalled WMC and it hasn't thrown a fit yet. I've always wondered why WMC does it and how/what your prog actually does.... Hope you dont take issue with what i'v just said
Well, as I say in the read me, it can't usually fix a broken installation because the registry entry will have been set by then and setting it to point to the corrupt database will just make it crash again. It needs to be run on a virgin installation before it crashes but it isn't needed with V13 because I set the registry on installation. Basically, when version 8x is installed there is no registry entry to tell WMC which database to use until there's a problem and a new one is made. I discovered that on very rare occasions WMC had a problem reading the database (maybe got confused, the file was being scanned by antivirus, updated by an EPG download or read by RecordingBroker) and so it created a new one. I found that on those very rare occasions, setting the registry entry to point to the old database and restarted the PC it was fine again. However, if the database is actually corrupt, it doesn't help. I wondered if setting the registry on a fresh installation would help prevent it being confused and it does seem to have helped me. It may be pure coincidence and nothing to do with that at all of course.
i got a virgin WMC install atm how often should it be run ill do it when there aren't any recordings ... i've stopped the current recordings but they wont stop and there are upcoming recordings... guess what happens if i cancel them lol I will then try your WMC Multi Tool option 7 and report back
I've updated my last post with some background info. What antivirus are you using? Have you excluded .db files from scanning?
thanks for the info, i will add yr set_db_instance script to the list of things i do when installing WMC just the default windows security and iv'e made no changes to it. should i exclude; C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\eHome\mcepg3-0\mcepg3-0.db C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\eHome\mcepg3-0 dir or the whole C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\eHome dir
I normally just exclude .db files although I have no proof that it makes any difference to WMC and I mainly do it because I run other software that use the same database files and it seem to slow them down.
ah ok, ill leave it be for the time being, this problem used to happen with my windows 7 install as well and with my 2002 xp install, shame you weren't around back then lol I'm still waiting on a hung WMC to cancel and stop current recordings
ok, so i did your set_db_instance script and WMC Multi Tool option 7, no change. if WMC still hangs, i will try v13
Well, I was hanging around on this site from the very beginning but my login got blasted along with everyone else when MS pulled the plug. I've been installing and maintaining PCs since long before MCE 2005 came out but the companies I worked for later on only supported businesses and not personal users so I wasn't as involved with Media Center but even though I've been retired for nearly ten years, I'm still loving it!
I assume you rebooted? I didn't know whether option 7 works with 8.8.4 because I've never tried it. I'm not sure what is causing the hanging either. Never seen that - how is it you have so many unusually problems?
yup, rebooted always had the hanging thing, i just lived with it option 7 said a file was copied, no biggie Ive only seen you on here in the last year or 2, i was talking way back in 2002, i didn't know about this forum then
Fairly sure in the distant past I had similar sorts of hangs so I created exclusions for: .wtv file type (no point having it scan terabytes of video) ehsched.exe ehshell.exe
Just noticed in the dissection of last week's security updates talk about there being Media Foundation vulnerabilities so I'm guessing by reverting MSVidCtl.dll in SYSTEM32 we're probably exposing those machines to vulnerabilities in some other Windows component. Pretty strong argument for 8.8.4 where Kevin has secluded the old MSVidCtl.dll in the ehome folder so other processes won't use it.
Sure is - all these workarounds should only ever have been used until a long term solution was found. I'm actually glad you brought this up because it is something I have meant to mention in the readme files in my zip files. I have therefore added some warnings to all my zip files that contain old DLLs.
You mean virus scan? i have tried several ones in the past When it hangs, in task manager WMC is at the top of cpu usage with 16%, then WMI Provider Host, with 3%, i tried restarting that service, no change. I also restarted, wmc reciever service and wmc scheduler services, no change, WMC stays hung, WMC is hung again from canceling a recording lol I have tried to find the cause for years and couldn't and just lived with it I also get WMC not recording after an unset amount of time, looks like WMC looses its connection to the tuners and i have to reboot. If i use v13, can the backup that i made with 8.8.4 be used?
The only way I can think of finding the cause is to start with a basic installation of just Windows and WMC then adding any other software you use one at a time if it has been running OK for a while. Could the failure to record be a power management issue? I see almost none of the problems you report on any of the 5 PCs I'm currently running with different builds of Windows 10 and versions of WMC. They all just work.
Well WMC stopped recording, even though it said it was recording a program and it wasnt recording programs that were on at the time, so i rebooted and got the "windows media center has corrected a problem with your recording data" blah blah blah and it made a new mcepg3-1.db I think it is due to a windows setting i do because i've had it from the start in every build i make, below is a list of most i do Spoiler: changes to windows creat scratch file on desktop pin settings to taskbar check for windows updates update windows restart check for windows updates update windows turn off screen saver turn off sleep power options to high performance change sleep turn off display to never turn off hdd set to never turn off timeline enable remote desktop rename this pc to ******* restart pc change network to private file and printer sharing turned on media streaming turn on background colour to solid colur black default app mode to dark turn off lock screen background picture turn off windows sounds show reciently added apps OFF show suggestions occasionally in start OFF show reciently opened items in jump list OFF automatically hide the taskbar ON use small tackbar buttons ON use peek preview ON combine taskbar buttons NEVER always show all icons startup apps turn off apart from windows security pin magnifier to taskbar move to the left safe search off cloud search off device history off customise search locations off use cortana even when my device is locked off privacy settings off desktop icons computer, network desktop icons small move icons to middle of the screen taskbar, show cortana, show tasks view off, search hidden, close one drive change screen res msconfig, normal startup, delete windows setup in boot, restart pin task manager to taskbar c: turn off indexing pin control panel to taskbar mouse pointer speed full remove hiberfil.sys powercfg.exe /hibernate off swapfile.sys pagefile.sys uninstall farm here saga candy crush friends change default apps 445.87-desktop-win10-64bit-international-dch-whql uninstall xbox beta add HDD remove c:\sources if you want to I INSTALL FROM SSD change folder view settings open file explorer to this pc show frequently used folders off Samsung_Magician_Installer 6.10 update firmware of 250ssd to RVT04B6Q set over provisioning optimize drive I tried v13 using the bakcup from 8.8.4 and it didnt work, so doing a setup of v13 now I need to do a clean install of win 10 so i could try without changing any windows settings
after installing v13 i had the following problems; speaker setup didnt work, clicking test made no sound for 5.1 got tuner conflict when trying live tv, all tuners currently in use WMC hung when trying to play a movie from movie library but will play from file explorer decoder error when trying to watch a recorded tv program no thumbnails with new recorded tv ran wmc_multi_tool.cmd option 1 MsVidCtl.dll. option a MSSQLlite option 4 MsVidCtl.dll system32 option 3 EncDec.dll windows\ehome option 6 EncDec.dll system32 i still get wmc wont play movie from movie library but will play from file explorer Any suggestions 2 bonus points with v13 music library works without turning off automatic download options taskbar short cut now shows guide
I just don't get it. I install Windows 10, wait for it to finish installing everything and reboot. Install WMC V13 and run through the tools provided in the installer folder using the known issues document as a guide. Reboot and everything works perfectly. I assume that the majority of people who have downloaded and installed V13 have the same trouble free outcome that I do, otherwise there would be thousands of people on here and TGB telling me it is crap. What is it that different about your computer that makes life so difficult for you?
Yeah, it's the same underlying WMC executable so I imagine using BackupRestoreSettings.cmd in the 8.8.4 directory on the old v13 install and then the Uninstaller.cmd with an optional reboot if you're being religious (and given your install you should be) and then a new install of 8.8.4 followed by a BackupRestoreSettings.cmd from the 8.8.4 directory should at the very least be reversible. EDIT: Just saw your long list of things you do to a machine. Most of that is pretty benign, but if I were you I wouldn't do any of it and see if your problem manifests. Other than that my bet is that it's your audio drivers as I've seen them cause problems in any number of instances so I'd even try it without the audio card (assuming it is a card of course).