[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    I thought you had problems and wondered if I did too :>

    Don't have the wherewithal to do a clean installation of 21H2 yet.
     
  2. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    If upgrading with an ISO that's NOT matching language, Setup doesn't offer keep any programs and settings. Thus, everything is removed.
     
  3. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    It did keep everything - all my programs, settings and data are still there - the only thing that happened was that WMC reset the database
     
  4. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    Usually, an upgrade with a different language ISO doesn't let you do that. *shrugs*

    MS doesn't particularly care for WMC anymore, so, you'll have to restore things from time to time. There will be no permanent solution, anymore.
     
  5. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    #10345 technodevotee, Mar 25, 2021
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    Yeah, downloaded and installed 21343.1000 as a clean install and it seems to work OK with WMC 8.8.5 but it is an insider preview so I guess it will expire at some point.

    Edition Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview
    Version Dev
    Installed on ‎25/‎03/‎2021
    OS build 21343.1000
    Experience Windows 10 Feature Experience Pack 321.7401.0.3
     
  6. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    sweet, that's good to know, lets hope when it gets released, there aren't differences to kill WMC
    thanks for taking the time to have a try

    do you only use the BackupRestoreSettings.cmd?
    if so, try what i did and use epg123 and Seans WMC Backup.exe as well

    to begin with i install 8.8.5, run through all my settings and setup tv signal and then make a backup using BackupRestoreSettings.cmd
    then i restore my recording schedule using Seans WMC Backup.exe, or you can add what you want to record and then make a backup using Seans WMC Backup.exe
    I then make a backup using epg123

    when i reinstall, i install 8.8.5, then i restore from BackupRestoreSettings.cmd, i can either then use Seans WMC Backup.exe to restore schedule recordings, or epg123.
    i have had to use epg123 of late because Seans WMC Backup.exe has been saving duplicates, even though inside WMC there is still only single entries???

    Hope that helps
     
  7. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    I use the free edition of the VEEAM Agent to create a daily incremental back of all my PCs on my NAS. That way, I can do a bare metal or file by file restore to any point in the past 30 days.

    I also use BackupRestoreSettings to make a backup on a monthly basis then move the resultant files to a different folder.

    Before an upgrade, I make a new backup then restore after reinstalling, I have also tried using the EPG123 backup and restore features.

    If the update or re-install messes up the database, I use the EPG123 transfer tool to put back my scheduled recordings.

    I found that Sean's WMC Backup doesn't restore everything so I don't use it any more.
     
  8. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller MDL Spinning Tortoise

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    Nope. Being only a minor Registry-only upgrade (aka fake mockup build), it will not expire. Exactly as 20H2, it is technically 20H1.
    Expect problems once 20H2 impacts, with all that Sun Valley stuff aboard. Testing WMC regularly on the true Dev builds is much better to check if it will be with us for a long time to come or not.
     
  9. Bigal

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  10. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    As you I'm sure you can tell, I am not a long term tester and normally run stable releases on all my PCs.

    I install new stuff on a spare HDD every now and then to see if it s going to break WMC then revert to my 'production' HDD once I have satisfied my curiosity.
     
  11. Bigal

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    #10352 Bigal, Mar 25, 2021
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    @technodevotee
    hmmm strange, Seans WMC Backup.exe had been fine up until recently.
    I am the same as you but use a spare ssd and occasionally select to boot into the test ssd to test.
    I have just made 21343.1000.210320-1757.RS_PRERELEASE_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-GB.ISO from the dev channel on uup dump, took 28 mins to make

    @everyone
    the one from the insider preview is Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-gb_21286.iso , its older and larger in size
     
  12. technodevotee

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    I can answer part of that I think. The version number and experience number on the fully up-to-date insider PC I'm currently running is the same as the one I installed from scratch using the ISO I downloaded and built from UUP files yesterday - and that is the same file you now have.
     
  13. Bigal

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    #10354 Bigal, Mar 25, 2021
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    ty, i will clean install 21343.1000.210320-1757.RS_PRERELEASE_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-GB.ISO from the dev channel on uup dump, on my spare ssd, as we know 21H1 will work ok and test every now and then and report any problems here, for the more technically adapt people to comment on.
    is this the same from the official insider preview?
    How often do updates get distributed?
     
  14. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    When I was running a PC on Insider Channel in the past, I was getting an update at least once a week and it got to be rather annoying.

    As you know Windows 10 updates tend to be roll ups now and the recent ones take ages to install on my spare PC.

    I've had one every few days recently so I probably won't be able to run it for long before getting bored and disconnect it again :>

    And I thought the amount of updates we get forced on us on stable builds were annoying.
     
  15. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    did the updates require a reinstall of WMC, as in did it rewrite the whole OS?
    I can boot to my test ssd once a week
     
  16. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    all the recent insider upgrades have broken WMC and required a reinstall to get it back

    frustrating
     
  17. Bigal

    Bigal MDL Member

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    spare ssd is all setup, ill install WMC when i have some spare time and be prepared for reinstalling each week
     
  18. Carlos Detweiller

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    Dev channel is where the real changes are rolled out and tested, the ones with a potential to break compatibility. So, checking it out in a dev channel build once in a while provides a good reflection of what to expect in the future. Many of the tested changes eventually end up in the release builds, though not all.
     
  19. cefeide

    cefeide MDL Novice

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    Any news?
    Please