[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    #10381 technodevotee, Aug 8, 2021
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  2. kensiko36

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    My Media Center has been flawless for a while but now it won't play live TV but recording still works. I uninstalled and reinstalled WMC, no luck. I also updated SiliconDust software.

    Could this be a codec issue ?
     
  3. technodevotee

    technodevotee MDL Senior Member

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    @dafob and @kensiko36

    Could you provide more information when posting?

    Actual Windows version (build number), WMC version, video card etc....
     
  4. kensiko36

    kensiko36 MDL Novice

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    Sure:
    Win10 21H1 19043.1110 x64
    WMC 8.8.5
    MSI RX-580 4GB driver 2021-04-13 27.20.21002.112
    HDHomeRun DUAL Model: HDHR3-US Device ID: 1036BDC1 Firmware: 20210422
     
  5. technodevotee

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    #10386 technodevotee, Aug 9, 2021
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    So do you get the decoder error like @dafob ?
    My 'production' PCs are running Windows 10 21H1 and are working fine.
    My Windows 11 test rig PC is also running fine.
    I am using AMD Radeons, a mix of DVB-T2 and DVB-S2 tuners with WMC V13 however.
     
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    #10387 technodevotee, Aug 9, 2021
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    I put up my Windows 11 test rig last night and Live TV is still working. There are differences in my configuration of course.

    Edition Windows 11 Pro
    Version 21H2
    Installed on ‎04/‎07/‎2021
    OS build 22000.120
    Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.120.0
    WMC V13
    AMD Radeon HD5450
    Hauppauge Win TV Nova HD DVB-S2 x2
     
  7. kensiko36

    kensiko36 MDL Novice

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    I get no error at all. I can change channel do everything normally but the screen stays blue
     
  8. technodevotee

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    That's weird. never seen that myself although there have been a few report of issues with live TV only before.

    Did you update the HDHR software before reinstalling WMC or after? Did you check the configuration after updating it?

    I don't know anything about HDHR other than what I've read on here and TGB but it seems fussy about the order of installation.

    But if you can record, that kind of implies it is something in the bowels of Windows that has changed rather than anything else. Like you say - a codec issue?
     
  9. kensiko36

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    I updated the HDHR software before WMC as it was easier. I checked the configuration of both applications.

    I'll need to try installing codecs to see what happens. I asked here in case it was an issue that appeared sometimes.
     
  10. technodevotee

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    I assume you have looked on the SiliconDust forum but have you had a look at the HD HomeRun stuff on The Green Button?
     
  11. kensiko36

    kensiko36 MDL Novice

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    Not yet, I only googled it up to now
     
  12. dafob

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    Sorry, my bad. I should have known better about posting more info as it irks me when others don't. Practice what you preach, I guess. :)

    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 (22000.120) => installed 22000.100 from scratch using UUP to create ISO, then updated to 120 via WU
    WMC package 8.8.5
    AVerMedia H826 USB Hybrid ATSC/QAM tuner
    Dell XPS 13 (9370)

    I have Win10 Pro installed on the same machine (different partition), with same 8.8.5 package and WMC works great. But when I boot into Win11, live TV doesn't work. I can go through the setup and even find all the channels. I can go into the signal viewer and can see the signal strength. However, launching live TV brings up the dreaded Decoder error. When in my Win10 Pro partition, everything works as expected.

    I understand Win11 is still in Beta, but was just curious if anyone was able to get live TV working on their setup. I'll try and replicate your setup with WMV v13, and see if I get better results. I'll also try on my desktop and see how it does there too.
     
  13. technodevotee

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    #10394 technodevotee, Aug 10, 2021
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    I was using 8.8.5 with Windows 11 and that was working fine until the disk got corrupted and I had to reinstall. I'm only using V13 now because I like to run WMC full screen in an RDP session.

    I'm not sure switching to V13 would make any difference.

    The only thing is that some people seem(ed) to find that certain Tuners work better with one version or the other although I have to say, I've never had that happen and I've got a fair assortment of cards that I've used over the years.
     
  14. dafob

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    #10395 dafob, Aug 15, 2021
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    So I tried V13, re-installed 8.8.5 and same results for both: Decoder error.

    I then tried a different card, an EyeTV Hybrid card which I've read is a Huappauge card. Removed WMC and re-installed and still get the Decoder error.

    Updated to .132 and still same thing.

    I think the next step I'm going to try and wipe out the system and re-install Win11, but I'm about ready to give up on WMC running in Win11 (at least up to the latest build)... :(
     

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  15. technodevotee

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    Hmm. I'm afraid I don't know what the problem is.

    All I can say is that it is working on my install of 22000.120 using V13 with Hauppauge Win TV HD DVB-S2 cards and an AMD Radeon Graphics card.

    The only thing I've had with V13, is that Windows has replaced some of the system DLLs almost immediately after setting up WMC, giving the impression that it doesn't work and I've had to run the scripts to get round it a number of times now.

    It is high maintenance compared to 8.8.5, which is just one of the reasons I don't publish or recommend people use V13 unless there's no other option.
     
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    please give workinf links to patches for xbox360 extender
     
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    Stupid me should've read the Workarounds.txt file. It clearly states that Decoder errors may be fixed by downloading and installing the LAV filters. Sure enough, after installing the LAV filters live TV works again on my Win11 install!