[DISCUSSION] Patch WMC to run on Windows 10 final & possible alternatives

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ricktendo64, May 8, 2015.

  1. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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  2. Kévin Chalet

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  3. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #10823 acer-5100, Feb 10, 2024
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    Yes I know all of that, I just missed the "<=" part, so I got you were blocking on W81/2012R2, which seemed strange to me. Sorry for the misunderstanding.:oops:

    Yeah say replacing Zoom 4 with 14/9 could be an option, to keep the matter as simple as possible (not sure how much people like/use the Zoom 4).

    Perhaps, speaking of the GUI a direct shortcut to choose a zoom mode would be more than enough (perhaps the lack of direct shortcut, even on stock Zoom modes complicated a lot my Eventghost shortcuts to have a single button switch from the remote control)

    Eh... indeed that's the problem, I implemented this via Eventghost, years ago. But isn't satisfying because EG can't be aware of what WMC is doing (even the windows' class isn't helping in WMC case), so like you say it has side effects when WMC is not playing videos, that's why I hoped that it was possible in the code.

    I suspected that, but hoping/asking is for free...:D
     
  4. Shortyportuguese

    Shortyportuguese MDL Senior Member

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    @Kévin Chalet Can you help me out on how to make WMC to be able to find channels?
    The card that you've recommended to me works perfectly with their own software, but, does not work on WMC... Any ideas?
    @acer-5100 Do you have any suggestions too? It stops at the phase that requests to download information of my locality/region, and when start the channel search, returns with no results.

    Thank you beforehand guys
     
  5. acer-5100

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    #10825 acer-5100, Feb 18, 2024
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    For the card specifics better to wait for Kévin that may know its eventual quirks.

    BTW If you have followed the thread recently you should know that making visible it to WMC is not really relevant,

    No matter if you use either the path of dvblink, nextpvr+dvblink or hdhrproxy, what matters it that the program you use to tune the cannels works AND that WMC is configured properly to communicate with such programs.
    Aside the advantage already discussed many times, tuning with WMC then renaming/sorting deleting channels is a pita if compared with more modern programs...
     
  6. Kévin Chalet

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    Which one did you buy? I actually suggested two different cards: a quad-tuner Hauppauge model (the model I'm using) and a well-known dual-tuner TBS card.

    Did you install the latest driver? When you say it returns no result after the channels scan, does it take some time or does it fail immediately? Does it at least detect/use the correct tuner type? (DVB-T/T2 in your case)
     
  7. Shortyportuguese

    Shortyportuguese MDL Senior Member

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    @Kévin Chalet hello, I bought the TBS 6281, that you even had helped me with Ebay link, and yes, have the latest drivers and software from TBS. (Driver installed was the DVB-C, since the card have separate drivers for terrestrial and cable)
    Takes 6 minutes on TBS software to find all channels and radio stations, and on WMC, sometimes fails immediately, and when don't fail immediately, takes LONG TIME on the scanning process, and after !00%, comes a message that don't have found any channel...
    What kind of bug this could be?
    @acer-5100 Do you had similar problem before? If so, how did you manage to fix it?

    Thank you beforehand, guys
     
  8. Shortyportuguese

    Shortyportuguese MDL Senior Member

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    @Kévin Chalet - In my case, all the flats on the building have cable service, instead of terrestrial antennas... Just FYI... :D
     
  9. Kévin Chalet

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    Wait, you're using DVB-C?! You should have mentioned that in the first place as it changes pretty much everything: Windows Media Center doesn't support DVB-C.
    To work around that, some manufacturers have developed virtual DVB-T or DVB-S drivers, but only for select models (e.g the TBS6680 offers both options).
    You'll need to contact TBS to see if they offer a virtual DVB-T/S driver for your card...

    Or you can go the Tvheadend+HDHRProxyIPTV route, as @acer-5100 suggested (Tvheadend fully supports DVB-C).
     
  10. Shortyportuguese

    Shortyportuguese MDL Senior Member

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    On Kodi I just use IPTV Simple Client, So, TVheadend and HDHRProxyIPTV are addons that runs independently, like IPTV Simple Client, or must I install something else to make it work?
     
  11. acer-5100

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    You use IPTV client for what? To get IPTV from the internet or you have already a local IPTV server?

    Anyway IPTV simple is a (very basic) CLIENT. That works in Kodi.

    For your TVtuner card you need a IPTV server, that acts as a bridge between your tuner and something else.

    That bridge can be DVBink alone

    Can be NextPVR + DVBlink (Which was my solution of choice for almost a decade)

    Can be one of the above + TVhaedend (which was, my idea to get HEVC TV to WMC)

    Can be TVheadend alone + HDHRproxy (which was Kévin's alternate solution to the above)

    Can be a combination of the above depending where and how you run TVheadend (which is a Linux only program).

    P.S. Perhaps all of above servers have their own client for Kodi and all of them are way better than the generic IPTV simple.
     
  12. Italia_Roma

    Italia_Roma MDL Novice

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    Hi, forgive me, I'm not an expert like you, I need help if possible.
    I'll briefly tell you my story with WMC, I've used it since it was with XP, I also have the Microsoft MCE keyboard, my family was fine with it, then when I learned that it didn't support DVB-T2 I switched to Windows 10 with jriver and we don't get on well...A few years ago I also purchased dvblink 6 to watch iptv on windows 8 not knowing that one day it would become useful for watching dvb-t2.
    I have backup copies of Windows 8 left with dvblink activated with a regular license but when I restore the copy everything works except dvblink iptv.
    I tried wmc10 (knowing that dvblink 4 probably wouldn't work) but it doesn't work on wmc8 either. When I install it there aren't even any icons...
    At the moment I'm trying wmc 10 with emby mediabrowser and jriver set as external player, it works perfectly, jriver allows me to see any file, even hdr, the problem is that I can't find a way to close jriver with the stop button on the wmc remote control. Could someone help me create an exe file with the command to close jriver?

    Having purchased a dvblink license, is it possible to reactivate it in some way?

    Thank you
     
  13. acer-5100

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    Guys just spend a bit of time reading the threads back.

    It's a decade we talk about DVBlink 4.1. which works perfectly.

    Just use the obvious way to do whatever you like with your remote control.

    Use eventghost.
     
  14. packetloss1

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    Any chance you might be able to put in a bypass for the PlayReady Update checks? Unless I'm misunderstanding things, it seems you can't go through a new tuner setup (Ceton InfiniTV with CableCard for DRM protected channels) without getting stuck in the Update PlayReady loop that fails because the MS server it needs to connect to, to check for an update is no longer live. Optimally, if the check can always tell it you are on the latest version I think a new tuner setup with PlayReady/cablecard would work.
     
  15. acer-5100

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    You need W10 1507 or 1511 or Server 2016 TP4 to get the DRM channel working.

    The DRM part was removed Since W10 1607 (anniversary edition) and Server 2016
     
  16. boxcar322

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    Hi acer-5100. I'm interested in your WMC setup. I have successfully tried the Tvheadend + HDHomeRun BDA + HDHRProxyIPTV option but WMC streams stop playing after some time while watching a channel. My only reason for not getting your solution to work is because dvblink is no longer available. Will TVmosaic work if I try your setup?
     
  17. boxcar322

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    Nevermind, I found the dvblink version.
     
  18. danila_112

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    Greetings!
    Does version 4.1 work fine for you?
    In my case, there is a problem in the form of an error after 10-20 minutes of viewing, “weak TV signal.” Interestingly, the KODI player works better, but I would like to use Windows Media Center as a client. The server is aTV mosaic CE with a configured DVB-S2 tuner. Since there is no direct TV mosaic client for Windows Media Center, I was forced to install a dvblink server 4.1 for IPTV and configure the transmission of the TV mosaic stream through a playlist. Then on the client I installed DVBlink network client and voila! Excellent work, I was happy, but after about 15 minutes I received a “weak TV signal” error on the client and playback stopped. I switched to another channel and again after about the same time the same error. That I tried to reinstall Windows on the server and client, increased the size of RAM on server and client, reduced the size of the Windows Media Center buffer through the registry on the client, tried to “broadcast” both a compressed and a full stream from TV mosaic. I can't figure out the reason, maybe someone can tell me what else I can try.
     
  19. dafob

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    Has anyone tried WMC on Windows 11 24H2 yet?

    Although it does launch for me, I do have weird symptoms:

    1. When scanning for channels, it just stops at around 8% and stops scanning. It finds about 6 channels before it stops. Clicking rescan does the same thing... stops at around 8%.
    2. Of the 6 channels that it does find, if I try to view those channels I get video but no audio. Sound does work because I can hear the clicking sounds in WMC as well as the opening launch sound. But no audio when viewing channels.

    I've tried various versions of WMC (8.8.5, W12, the MSI installer, etc.). I've also tried removing the tuner card drivers and re-installing and nothing changes. All was working in W11 23H2 and previous.

    Anyone else with W11 24H2 experience?
     
  20. pm67310

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    Restore ac3 / dolby digital codec , add hevc , av1 , avc , heif , mpeg2 ,raw
     
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