[DISCUSSION] The future of Windows 11

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by PolidelticusFire, May 13, 2024.

  1. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Thanks for your detailed post.

    Maybe a bit too technical, but still interesting :rasta:
     
  2. EaglePC

    EaglePC MDL Expert

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    sit back and relax and let the magic happen
     
  3. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Expert

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    New Insider stuff/news coming out tomorrow (May 21) according to an X post.
     
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  4. PlugNut

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  6. monkeylove

    monkeylove MDL Member

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    Will likely go streaming and paid for via subscription, together with other operating systems and apps.
     
  7. squew

    squew MDL Novice

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    Hi,
    I don't really get why some people think Wn11 is that bad... personally, I see thing getting better and better...
    Indeed, the Gui evolved in interesting ways. With the dark theme, you get complex color blending, there are some neat transparency effects, there are some combination of "mate black" that are very good... And overall, it's quite consistent.
    Explorer, which in canary builds of january-february was slow, but since, it improved a lot, and the gallery is impressive, I can browse through thousands of pictures smoothly, it's well implemented, and since the Photo app uses the same component, for the first time since Windows 8 there is a bundled app that's actually promising (it has all the features needed to sort your pictures without using complex tools like Lightroom), and if you use OneDrive your photos are tagged according to their content and people faces are recognized...). Some may say that Explorer still lack some features, but while I'd like better tab management, I don't really miss anything.
    Terminal is still improving and is a good piece of software, I use it all the time, I also use more and more Powershell (since I can ask for some help to some AI Agent right from the terminal, it allows to learn and quickly reach your goal, without disrupting your flow, like if you needed to switch to a browser etc.). I use Edge, which is also improving constantly... features like Workspaces, auto tab grouping with AI, the sidebar that turns out being quite handy, some more useful image tools, improved memory management even when you have lots of tabs... split screen... It's at least worth trying, really :)
    I'm looking much more at the diagnostic viewer, which show all the telemetry and experiments going on, it's a bit addictive actually, I try to find new features ahah and with tools like Everything, if you record file activity, you may have surprises, I saw that recall had been tested (not taking screenshots, but probably assessing the performances on non "AI" devices). I noticed an interesting thing. Windows has now support for native containers (so no need for docker, podman, containerd, etc.) and .net 9 allows to create very small and efficient containers, that can be mounted or unmounted from the filesystem. And apparently, they combine multiple 'pieces' sometimes a single DLL. I see that there are many things in "containers" folders, I cannot be sure, but for instance all "optional features" are in those folders, as well as sometimes very old things, like telephone.cpl to tabletpc.cpl, or even Internet Explorer. I also noticed some vhdx virtual drives, one is clearly Vista/7/8, there are folders for the Windows Sidebar, Windows Mail, Legacy Edge... and is around 150Mb. My impression is that they will be able to remove components used for compatibility or not needed from the system, and load files as needed... Finally, they make use of Windows Performance recorder or win perf analysis tools. And they are really impressive, as you can collect and analyze pretty much everything going on in Windows... with complex graphics and analytics.
     
  8. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Sounds like a fanb0i advertisement.

    You are (or pretend to be) the type of user MS likes to have. With that attitude, you'd also have no problems in the Apple camp.

    However, many others just need the OS foundations and want to build their stuff onto it, exactly how they please. And, they should be allowed to do that. That's the point MS doesn't recognize, and thus the criticism.
     
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  9. DriftiX

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    if they like those type of things, why are they canceling WSA subsystem?
     
  10. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Expert

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  11. mrnoody

    mrnoody MDL Novice

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    what's most advanced/latest stable build it can be tested on virtual machine for preview next gen?
     
  12. DriftiX

    DriftiX MDL Novice

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    i think this build 27695, but its not stable, just most advanced
     
  13. donmiller

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    Firstly, as time marches on, I believe that Windows(R) will violate your privacy more and more until it becomes intolerable.
    The last thing I want is for AI (in any form) to keep asking:
    "Can I help you?"
    "Can I help you?"
    "Can I help you?"
    "Can I help you?"

    In the distant future, the second thing that will go is your freedom of choice (agency, or free will). AI will make decisions for you, and you will be required to accept those decisions because it will be drafted into the laws of your land.

    At some point, I can see myself removing Windows 11 in favor of Windows 10 IoT LTSC. But I'm not quite there yet...