[DISCUSSION] UUP dump - download Windows 10/11 UUPs with ease

Discussion in 'MDL Projects and Applications' started by whatever127, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. dns_momo

    dns_momo MDL Novice

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    No one has this problem or maybe it's answer somewhere? can you point me to it? Thank you!
     
  2. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    You don't even need a secondary partition.

    Use native vhds!
     
  3. Nicolas Bermudez

    Nicolas Bermudez MDL Member

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    I don't have much space left in my main Drive C to create vhdx. I even run Windows 11 in just a 20GB partition. I don't want to delete my precious movie and anime collections just for toying around with Windows.
     
  4. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    The idea is exactly avoiding the wasted space because partitioning (which is just one of the endless advantages of vhdx).

    Perhaps you don't need 20GB for win11 just use a LZX compressed installation and any x64 install will fit in 6GB or so
     
  5. Nicolas Bermudez

    Nicolas Bermudez MDL Member

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    It is already LZX compressed. The storage is still half empty even after installing drivers and apps (though I still had to remove Chimpanzee... I mean ClipChamp and other bloatwares), I need that empty space in case I want to download some big files.
     
  6. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Aside that a vhd an be 100MB and take 5MB of real storage, depending what's inside it, obviously if you have multiple OSes in multiple VHDs you want to keep downloads, documents, temps and alike in a shared space in the real partition (or in a shared vhd dedicated to that purpose), so no need to waste space because "just in case"...
     
  7. Paul Mercer

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    #5009 Paul Mercer, Aug 9, 2023
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  8. Schrotty

    Schrotty MDL Junior Member

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    uup dump so slow with new Win11 Beta. This alone took him more than 10 minutes.

    Processing 1 of 1 – Adding package Package_for_KB5027397~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.1760.1.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.

    Windows11.0-KB5029336-x64.msu

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22621.1

    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1

    Processing 1 of 1 –
    [===========================80.0%============== ]
    [===========================70.0%======== ]
     
  9. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Expert

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    DISM is a huge well known bottleneck, there's no workaround
     
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  10. Stimpy88

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    It gets slower and slower as time goes on. Even on a 16 core 5950x system with 32GB of memory, it still takes an age to create a new image. Meantime when you watch Task Manager, the computer is doing almost nothing.
     
  11. abbodi1406

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  12. DuskGolem

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    I just downloaded the windows 11 uup dump today (going to try windows 11 for the 1st time, what could go wrong) and was surprised to see that download size of UUPs folder was diffferent than the one reported on uup site (4.4G instead of 2.95G). Then I found out that since build 22563+, apps are outboxed now which makes the size large. Regarding these changes, I got some questions.

    1) Will this size confusion be negated in the future on uup site or is it impossible to predict the size of the apps due to being updated at any time by microsoft? It will be very helpful to have a checksum file of those app bundles as well to check for updated files in newer updates (I use this method to update my Windows 10 ISOs).

    2) In the future, how can I go about updating the uups folder for windows 11 now with the appx / msix packages (~1.7G out of 4.4G) in the mix along with .esd and .cab files (~2.7G out of 4.4G)? For windows 10, I have to replace 2 to 3 files every month (after patch tuesday) to create an updated ISO. How to do this for windows 11 uups?
     
  13. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    @DuskGolem

    1) Select "Any Language" from Choose language page, Next > Next.. and you would see the apps download size

    apps files are not updated for a build number (e.g. 22621 apps still the same for all updates)

    2) uup-converter will move and sort apps files in Apps directory, or if you prefer organizer without conversion:
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/goto/post?id=1727314#post-1727314

    only updates files (SSU-*.cab / Windows11.0-*.cab) differ for a build number revisions + DesktopDeployment.cab + AggregatedMetadata.cab
    you only need to replace those
     
  14. DuskGolem

    DuskGolem MDL Junior Member

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    :confused:

    On the site it says 2.95G which corresponds to the total size of .esd and .cab files (total 82). The Apps folder size is 1.5G as you can see in the picture below. I was indicating that "Apps Bundles' " size (1.5G) is not visible on the site.


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    Anyway, organizing the app bundles is a neat trick, those >3000 files were making me dizzy :hypo:. Thanks Mate.
     
  15. Ace2

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