And just remove the apps with some powershell script after installing Windows 11? Testing further with Gemini, it advised to allow the installation of Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe and Microsoft.WidgetsPlatformRuntime_8wekyb3d8bbwe. It also suggested adding Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost_8wekyb3d8bbwe and Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost_8wekyb3d8bbwe to the custom apps list. So below is my current list: Spoiler: CustomAppsList.txt ### This file allows you to customize which Microsoft Store Apps are installed ### during the UUP to ISO conversion process. ### ### For changes done to this file to be applied, the CustomList option in the ### ConvertConfig.ini file needs to be set to 1. ### ### This customization is supported only in builds 22563 and later. ### Choose the wanted apps from below by removing # prefix ### Common Apps / Client editions all Microsoft.WindowsStore_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.Windows.Photos_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.WindowsNotepad_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.Paint_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_cw5n1h2txyewy # Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.WindowsCalculator_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.WindowsMaps_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.ScreenSketch_8wekyb3d8bbwe # microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.People_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.BingNews_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.GetHelp_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.Getstarted_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.Todos_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.PowerAutomateDesktop_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.549981C3F5F10_8wekyb3d8bbwe # MicrosoftCorporationII.QuickAssist_8wekyb3d8bbwe # MicrosoftCorporationII.MicrosoftFamily_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Clipchamp.Clipchamp_yxz26nhyzhsrt # Microsoft.OutlookForWindows_8wekyb3d8bbwe # MicrosoftTeams_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.Windows.DevHome_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.BingSearch_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.ApplicationCompatibilityEnhancements_8wekyb3d8bbwe MicrosoftWindows.CrossDevice_cw5n1h2txyewy # MSTeams_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.MicrosoftPCManager_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.StartExperiencesApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.WidgetsPlatformRuntime_8wekyb3d8bbwe ### Media Apps / Client non-N editions # Microsoft.ZuneMusic_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.ZuneVideo_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.GamingApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.XboxGamingOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe ### Media Codecs / Client non-N editions, Team edition Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.RawImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.WebpImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.DolbyAudioExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.AVCEncoderVideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.MPEG2VideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.AV1VideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe ### Surface Hub Apps / Team edition # Microsoft.Whiteboard_8wekyb3d8bbwe # microsoft.microsoftskydrive_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.MicrosoftTeamsforSurfaceHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe # MicrosoftCorporationII.MailforSurfaceHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.MicrosoftPowerBIForWindows_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.SkypeApp_kzf8qxf38zg5c # Microsoft.Office.Excel_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.Office.PowerPoint_8wekyb3d8bbwe # Microsoft.Office.Word_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost_8wekyb3d8bbwe Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost_8wekyb3d8bbwe With this, the Start menu now works as expected. So perhaps UUP dump is omitting the final two entries, when in fact they are needed?
Why is it so common to do that these days? Seems everything is about removing stuff, i am from the generation that we were happy to have some working apps included. Only provides the UUP file set and appx files, UUP>ISO, named uup_converter.cmd is the tool that converts those files into an ISO, and not all that can be used needs to be used, my personal opinion. Why not ask AI to do the conversion too , i already advised NOT to use the customappslist, usage is at own risk and skills. Testing this scenario now... ps, please use code tags for the lists.
Sorry, didn't mean to upset you and/or make you angry. I am just trying to find fixes to my problems by myself and reporting back here, in case it helps other people and to help with the development and maintenance of the tool.
Some questions about Windows 10 from UUP. Functionally what's the difference between Cumulative_Update_Windows_10_22H2_(19045.7663)_amd64 and Feature_update_Windows_10_22H2_(19045.7663)_amd64 ? From first glance the Cumulative Update did update the setup interface, I could tick what telemetry I want one one page with switches instead of Basic=>Next 3-4 times like it always happens in Windows 10. 7663 is ESU, does this version get ESU updates automatically without TSforge from MAS? Or once installed it's frozen to .7663 until TSforge for ESU is applied? Generally are there downsides or future bugs that may happen instead of the normal way, install latest official ISO from October 2025 => TSforge ESU => Update to 7663 instead?
How does the October 2025 MS ISO gets it from WU without manually installing it? Can't the UUP ISO get it too automatically?
correct ISO is just an ISO, you still need ESU licence (from MAS/TSforge or legit licence) or full ESU Suppressor (BypassESU X)
WU should offer it also on UUP ISO that already has the ESU update too right? Like the official ISO offers it. Sorry if the question seems stupid, I'm trying to understand how UUP ISO works in comparison to the official ISO, I'm thinking to get each month the updated UUP ISO (to be already updated after installing Windows) like monthly official ISOs and have it get normally the next updates just by activating the ESU license with MAS
I viewed it but it started at 6456 (October 2025, last non-ESU build), it didn't already have an ESU update installed like UUP ISOs do, it may had some conflict or something but Paul above answered it so all good.
it's the same thing for the end users WU will install all applyable updates, including ESU Licensing Preparation Package for both MSFT and UUP dump ISO if your build is at least 19045.6456
So it's more to avoid people not following instructions/messing up/asking for support/etc and instead using the official ISOs and not strictly true?
it's practically the same thing, so it's easier for everyone to recommend the MSFT ISO if it's available if you know what you are doing, W10UI / W10MUI / uup-converter is fine there are too many variables, people even think they are "downloading an ISO" when in reality they are downloading UUP set and converting it it would be better to just download an official ISO and forget about it p.s. MSFT ISO is actually nothing special https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1919798