I don't think you understand. I went there to check the hashes for a few RS2 ISOs. Previously the site allowed me to look up the ISO details without logging in. Now it's forcing me to log in and when I do so with my MS account it's still not displaying the info I'm looking for. Is anyone else still able to check the ISO details without logging in to the MSDN Subscriber Downloads site?
MrMagic said: ↑ If you have to log in, it's only with any MSA, you don't have to have a sub. I've already logged in but I have no subscribtions. Well, where can I see the Windows RS2 SHA1?
Just go here: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-sha-1.74442/#post-1350616 Oh wait that was yesterday,,,,
Thank you Enthousiast, I know my thread from yesterday. I've only read the following: MrMagic said: ↑ If you have to log in, it's only with any MSA, you don't have to have a sub. I've understood that I can log in to MSA with any name and I can find msdn sha1 again but it's not true. I've no sub and there's no option to look for older sha1.
Exactly. They say they've migrated to the VS site, but logging in (again) there shows nothing. I guess only those with active subscriptions would see the ISO details, and perhaps only for products they have access to and not all as was the case earlier. This sucks. Why MS? Why would you feel the need to hide this useful info. from your users? P.S. I know of all the unofficial hash lists but it's no surprise that I'd rather trust MS. Guess we have no choice now though but look to possibly dubious third-party sources.
Ridiculous move on MS' part. If you have a sub, can you confirm whether you can still see hashes for all products as was visible without a sub earlier?
The bottom line is Microsoft is doing this to encourage people to buy Windows or buy a subscription. I think Microsoft caught onto the fact that people without subscriptions would use that information (file name, size, checksum) to easily find copies in the wild with solid verification thanks to Microsoft originally making it public. Now they're locking it down and making it so everyone else will have to "trust" their outside source without independent verification. It is their way of adding a level of doubt and fear into the wild, as they continue to use their marketing ploy of that non-Microsoft sources should not be trusted. Thankfully, we have a team of subscribers here on MDL and as a result, everything here can easily be cross verified.
Thank you for the details, that's how I've understood it. In my opinion it is the biggest mistake MS could ever do. The most people buy windows regularly at amazon or somewhere else. There's only a minority who likes to play with the newest MS releases. The most noobies who don't know too much about all these technical incidents will download crap. BTW, for me MS has became chaotic with windows 8.
We have to put some trust in members like @mkuba50, @GezoeSloog, @Threat, @Inge, @LostED, @vanelle, @Oz, @NeXtStatioN, @adguard, and all other contributors with MSDN subscriptions or access to it in any other way to provide us with iso's or checksums. They take pride in their contributions and have proven to be very trustworthy in the past. And for all releases there are always the official and encrypted ESD downloads.
Yes, but come on, it's not as if checksums help people pirate their products. Remember back when they never used to make ISOs public? Then slowly with Win7 DigitalRiver links became available to those who had legitimate need for reinstalling their OS with a clean untouched copy. They then removed those but made the Win7 ISOs directly available from their site (though to retail users only who had a valid key). Finally they got it through their brains with Win8 onwards that everyone can be offered ISOs and it doesn't mean that they're aiding piracy. They started offering the Media Creation Tool as well to make it simple for people to download and create the ISOs or USB/DVD setup media. What they've done now by hiding the checksums simply hurts people who might have obtained the ISOs from elsewhere for various reasons. For example I've seen posts here where people have requested torrent or other links because MS' download servers are slow for them, or inaccessible for some reason and so on. Since MS knows that providing just the ISOs doesn't mean genuine users without a key will magically get an activated OS, what harm then to provide the checksums as well to all to aid verification? That doesn't hurt them in any way either. This is really pathetic. Seriously, they're hashes. Again, I fail to see the great advantage in limiting people's access to them, that too only to the products they've subscribed to. While I don't think it's the biggest mistake MS could ever do, it is certainly a dumb move IMO. On one hand of course you are both correct and we have wonderful members here sharing the required info. freely instead of taking MS' miserly approach. On the other hand it's equally true that the non MSDN subscribers among us have no choice now but to depend purely on such members (and personally, no offence, but I'd at least cross-verify with two or more members' lists before accepting any checksum provided).
For win 10 and 8.1 all iso's are still available on the Techbench unlocked downloadoptions, by direct downloads from MSFT, all that is not is available as SVF. And as said, the esd's are officially encrypted and readily available at the ESD Repository or at the OP's of the 14393 and 15063 threads (check my sig). Plus there is the MCT, it will create iso's from the formentioned esd files.
Yes, I know all this. My complaint was purely about users not having the ability any more to view official checksums, irrespective of whether they're downloading the ISOs directly from MS or not. Anyway I will not belabor the point, so we can get back to discussing RS2. Is anyone else seeing noticeable stuttering in the Start Menu animation? 1607 and earlier was super smooth, but in 1703/CU it is simply terrible, at least for me. Any known fixes?