[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 (1703 RS2) "Creators Update" Final 15063 (PC)

Thank you for the details, that's how I've understood it. In my opinion it is the biggest mistake MS could ever do. The most people buy windows regularly at amazon or somewhere else. There's only a minority who likes to play with the newest MS releases.
The most noobies who don't know too much about all these technical incidents will download crap. BTW, for me MS has became chaotic with windows 8.

 

We have to put some trust in members like @mkuba50, @GezoeSloog, @Threat, @Inge, @LostED, @vanelle, @Oz, @NeXtStatioN, @adguard, and all other contributors with MSDN subscriptions or access to it in any other way to provide us with iso's or checksums.

They take pride in their contributions and have proven to be very trustworthy in the past.

And for all releases there are always the official and encrypted ESD downloads.

 

Yes, but come on, it's not as if checksums help people pirate their products. Remember back when they never used to make ISOs public? Then slowly with Win7 DigitalRiver links became available to those who had legitimate need for reinstalling their OS with a clean untouched copy. They then removed those but made the Win7 ISOs directly available from their site (though to retail users only who had a valid key). Finally they got it through their brains with Win8 onwards that everyone can be offered ISOs and it doesn't mean that they're aiding piracy. They started offering the Media Creation Tool as well to make it simple for people to download and create the ISOs or USB/DVD setup media.

What they've done now by hiding the checksums simply hurts people who might have obtained the ISOs from elsewhere for various reasons. For example I've seen posts here where people have requested torrent or other links because MS' download servers are slow for them, or inaccessible for some reason and so on. Since MS knows that providing just the ISOs doesn't mean genuine users without a key will magically get an activated OS, what harm then to provide the checksums as well to all to aid verification? That doesn't hurt them in any way either.

This is really pathetic. Seriously, they're hashes. Again, I fail to see the great advantage in limiting people's access to them, that too only to the products they've subscribed to.

While I don't think it's the biggest mistake MS could ever do, it is certainly a dumb move IMO.

On one hand of course you are both correct and we have wonderful members here sharing the required info. freely instead of taking MS' miserly approach. On the other hand it's equally true that the non MSDN subscribers among us have no choice now but to depend purely on such members (and personally, no offence, but I'd at least cross-verify with two or more members' lists before accepting any checksum provided).

 

For win 10 and 8.1 all iso's are still available on the Techbench unlocked downloadoptions, by direct downloads from MSFT, all that is not is available as SVF.

And as said, the esd's are officially encrypted and readily available at the ESD Repository or at the OP's of the 14393 and 15063 threads (check my sig).

Plus there is the MCT, it will create iso's from the formentioned esd files.

 

Yes, I know all this. My complaint was purely about users not having the ability any more to view official checksums, irrespective of whether they're downloading the ISOs directly from MS or not. Anyway I will not belabor the point, so we can get back to discussing RS2.

Is anyone else seeing noticeable stuttering in the Start Menu animation? 1607 and earlier was super smooth, but in 1703/CU it is simply terrible, at least for me. Any known fixes?

 

Normal users are meant to buy the media + key or download directly from MSFT.

No stutter here.

 

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I love my old i7 3770 system, it doesn't even have drivers for 10, and all works flawless.

My wife also never complaints about it on her LapTablet T100TA

Both run 15063.332

The official way to get ISO's is by using the MCT and it checks the integrity of the source esd's it downloads during iso creation.

 

Lucky for you that you're not facing this issue, but it does affect many systems. Hopefully they'll backport the 16176 Insider Build fix to a forthcoming CU for 15063, but it wouldn't surprise me if we had to wait till the release of the Fall Creators Update for it. After all, they did the same with the fix for the "folder attributes loss on copy/move" bug in 1607, which got fixed in a pre-1703 Insider Build but never got released for 1607 via a CU.

 

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Why are you still trying to integrate LP's in an edtition which is already officially available in all possible languages?

For correct LP integration you simply could have used abbodi1406's W10UI script.

 

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If I just have to convert the ESD (with what tool, by the way? Can NTLite convert it?) then why I did LostED wrote all that? And why isn't the Enterprise x64 pt-pt available like other languages (at least already converted in ISO)? Like I said before, I only want the Enterprise x64 edition and not an AIO and/or Home, Pro, Education, etc., editions.

 

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Oh boy ... you're trying to use a version that never was meant for mortal users at first. A simple search for 'how to decrypt store ESD' will reveal several how-tos for @abbodi1406s decrypter from post#1. How hard is this ... ?

 

And don't you think that I already followed those how-tos and it didn't work?

 

Conclusion: PEBCAK .

 

I think the same thing could be said about you.

 

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