[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 (1709 RS3) "Fall Creators Update" Final 16299.15 , 16299.64 & 16299.125 (PC)

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  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #781 Enthousiast, Oct 9, 2017
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  2. Michalko

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    Hey, are there any iso/esd/uup available for 1709 enterprise Windows? Thanks!
     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yes, read the OP of the 1709 sticky ;) Second url from the top in my sig.
     
  4. Michalko

    Michalko MDL Novice

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    Perhaps I´m dumb but I couldn´t find any enterprise files there. Could you help me out please?
     
  5. Michalko

    Michalko MDL Novice

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    Nevermind, just didn´t understand how UUP works. All fine now! Thanks.
     
  6. Nucleus

    Nucleus MDL Guru

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    There's a sticky thread dedicated to this release, tons of other ppl have asked for Enterprise in the main thread. Post

    Use this.
     
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  7. Ratha ITC

    Ratha ITC MDL Member

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    I had serious problems with Store and its apps after I upgraded from my RS 2. However, I have no more or even a single problem so far since I did the clean install. I'm a research student in computer vision and I also use many tools, IDE, and libraries, and I haven't found any problem yet. I do love this build. I suggest the clean install.
     
  8. armond

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    Hey good job thanks!
     
  9. sevenacids

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    #790 sevenacids, Oct 9, 2017
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    I did a clean install, I always do, but with a customized image file. I guess in this case the problem is related to the provisioned application packages. I didn't have any problems in the past, but now it seems that when you remove some of them (like the Maps app), you break certain Windows features as well (shouldn't be the case for any non-critical, non-System app). Unfortunately, the XAML designer of Visual Studio seems to depend on some of the Maps functionality, and so it's broken as well. I just checked with a vanilla 16299.15 image in Hyper-V, and it works fine. I'm really disappointed of this release for now, from a deployment perspective. Maybe I just had bad luck and run into some kind of weird corruption that passes under the radar of DISM and SFC, but it's strange. It just never happend with a bleeding edge build so far, and it really should not with a build that is RTM and apparently shipped to manufacturers for customization/preloading.
     
  10. Ratha ITC

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    Maybe it's the case. Have you tried creating a new Windows account? If this could not fix, I guess it's the same problem like when I upgraded from my RS 2.

    By the way, to prevent something bad like this happens, I created a local administrator account of Windows and other administrator which I'm using right now. This way, if I mess the things up with this current account, I will delete this account and created a new one with my local administrator account.
     
  11. whatever127

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    I've been curious if I can create ESD that can be used with abbodi's converter with every single edition that is offered by combining clientconsumer esd with enterprise and enterpriseN UUPs.

    It actually worked, and by referencing clientconsumer ESD I had to only download these UUP files
    Code:
    amd64fre_Client_pl-pl_lp.esd
    EnterpriseN_pl-pl.esd
    Enterprise_pl-pl.esd
    Microsoft-Windows-EditionPack-Enterprise-Package.ESD
    Microsoft-Windows-EditionPack-Enterprise-WOW64-Package.ESD
    Microsoft-Windows-EditionSpecific-Enterprise-Package.ESD
    Microsoft-Windows-EditionSpecific-Enterprise-WOW64-Package.ESD
    Microsoft-Windows-EditionSpecific-EnterpriseN-Package.ESD
    Microsoft-Windows-EditionSpecific-EnterpriseN-WOW64-Package.ESD
    
    Then I have created a rough script that exports all indexes from clientconsumer esd that I placed in ref folder and then exports Enterprise from UUPs.
    Code:
    @echo off
    for /L %%i in (1,1,11) do (
    wimlib-imagex.exe export ref\clientconsumer.esd %%i new.esd
    )
    
    wimlib-imagex.exe export Enterprise_pl-pl.esd 3 new.esd --ref="ref\*.esd"
    wimlib-imagex.exe export EnterpriseN_pl-pl.esd 3 new.esd --ref="ref\*.esd"
    
    Information from wimlib-imagex about created ESD:
    Code:
    WIM Information:
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    Path:           new.esd
    GUID:           0xeac223ad0f666df90f89936535b8fef8
    Version:        3584
    Image Count:    13
    Compression:    LZMS
    Chunk Size:     131072 bytes
    Part Number:    1/1
    Boot Index:     0
    Size:           3309064830 bytes
    Attributes:     Relative path junction
    
    Available Images:
    -----------------
    Index:                  1
    Name:                   Windows Setup Media
    Description:            Windows Setup Media
    Directory Count:        89
    File Count:             972
    Total Bytes:            262805771
    Hard Link Bytes:        0
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 15:11:31 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:11:31 2017 UTC
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  2
    Name:                   Microsoft Windows PE (x64)
    Description:            Microsoft Windows PE (x64)
    Directory Count:        3439
    File Count:             16085
    Total Bytes:            1689975902
    Hard Link Bytes:        727028073
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:10:11 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:13:41 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             WindowsPE
    Installation Type:      WindowsPE
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  9
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  3
    Name:                   Microsoft Windows Setup (x64)
    Description:            Microsoft Windows Setup (x64)
    Directory Count:        3469
    File Count:             16510
    Total Bytes:            1846000688
    Hard Link Bytes:        805143843
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:10:25 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:13:58 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             WindowsPE
    Installation Type:      WindowsPE
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  2
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  4
    Name:                   Windows 10 S
    Description:            Windows 10 S
    Display Name:           Windows 10 S
    Display Description:    Windows 10 S
    Directory Count:        21278
    File Count:             102903
    Total Bytes:            15612318882
    Hard Link Bytes:        7366121425
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:38:47 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:30:17 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             Cloud
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  Cloud
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  5
    Name:                   Windows 10 S N
    Description:            Windows 10 S N
    Display Name:           Windows 10 S N
    Display Description:    Windows 10 S N
    Directory Count:        20668
    File Count:             96802
    Total Bytes:            14539563945
    Hard Link Bytes:        6837250800
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:37:13 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:31:32 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             CloudN
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  CloudN
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  6
    Name:                   Windows 10 Home
    Description:            Windows 10 Home
    Display Name:           Windows 10 Home
    Display Description:    Windows 10 Home
    Directory Count:        21139
    File Count:             101946
    Total Bytes:            15417708940
    Hard Link Bytes:        7261893349
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:36:23 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:32:55 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             Core
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  Core
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  7
    Name:                   Windows 10 Home N
    Description:            Windows 10 Home N
    Display Name:           Windows 10 Home N
    Display Description:    Windows 10 Home N
    Directory Count:        20529
    File Count:             95841
    Total Bytes:            14351895695
    Hard Link Bytes:        6733307563
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:34:52 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:34:12 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             CoreN
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  CoreN
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  8
    Name:                   Windows 10 Education
    Description:            Windows 10 Education
    Display Name:           Windows 10 Education
    Display Description:    Windows 10 Education
    Directory Count:        21279
    File Count:             102907
    Total Bytes:            15609653187
    Hard Link Bytes:        7364680832
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:40:07 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:35:28 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             Education
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  Education
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  9
    Name:                   Windows 10 Education N
    Description:            Windows 10 Education N
    Display Name:           Windows 10 Education N
    Display Description:    Windows 10 Education N
    Directory Count:        20669
    File Count:             96815
    Total Bytes:            14536996485
    Hard Link Bytes:        6835953528
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:36:22 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:36:49 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             EducationN
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  EducationN
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  10
    Name:                   Windows 10 Pro
    Description:            Windows 10 Pro
    Display Name:           Windows 10 Pro
    Display Description:    Windows 10 Pro
    Directory Count:        21278
    File Count:             102901
    Total Bytes:            15610307592
    Hard Link Bytes:        7365153635
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:39:57 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:38:14 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             Professional
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  Professional
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  11
    Name:                   Windows 10 Pro N
    Description:            Windows 10 Pro N
    Display Name:           Windows 10 Pro N
    Display Description:    Windows 10 Pro N
    Directory Count:        20668
    File Count:             96800
    Total Bytes:            14537692186
    Hard Link Bytes:        6836346418
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 14:40:08 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:39:30 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             ProfessionalN
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    Flags:                  ProfessionalN
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  12
    Name:                   Windows 10 Enterprise
    Description:            Windows 10 Enterprise /EA
    Directory Count:        21290
    File Count:             103030
    Total Bytes:            15729717389
    Hard Link Bytes:        7365278001
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 15:12:47 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:17:36 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             Enterprise
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    Index:                  13
    Name:                   Windows 10 Enterprise N
    Description:            Windows 10 Enterprise N /EA
    Directory Count:        20668
    File Count:             96922
    Total Bytes:            14655442935
    Hard Link Bytes:        6835948086
    Creation Time:          Sat Sep 30 15:13:35 2017 UTC
    Last Modification Time: Sat Sep 30 15:18:16 2017 UTC
    Architecture:           x86_64
    Product Name:           Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    Edition ID:             EnterpriseN
    Installation Type:      Client
    Product Type:           WinNT
    Product Suite:          Terminal Server
    Languages:              pl-PL
    Default Language:       pl-PL
    System Root:            WINDOWS
    Major Version:          10
    Minor Version:          0
    Build:                  16299
    Service Pack Build:     15
    Service Pack Level:     0
    WIMBoot compatible:     no
    
    
    I think that someone might find this information helpful. Instead downloading 8,5GB of UUPs you need to download 3GB clientconsumer ESD and 1,6GB of dependencies for Enterprise.

    Note that this is in case of Polish language, because I only tested with it.

    UUP converter for some reason does not show OS names for Enterprise editions added to the ESD using this method, but ISO is created without any problems.
     
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  12. sweetvivek007

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    Can anybody tell me what is the way to install pro version from the iso i made from esd i had oem home single language installed and now the installation from fall creators update also installs the same. it does not ask for pro home like options i checked the esd by decypter tool, it had so many versions but as my acer laptop has inbuilt oem info so i guess it automatically installs the same, however i have pro digital license with me so thinking to install pro over home single language
     
  13. Enthousiast

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    Use an ei.cfg:
    Code:
    [Channel]
    _Default
    
    [VL]
    0
    And you can select any of the sku's on the iso.
     
  14. Enthousiast

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    It just means there are no 2 different IP channels (rs_prerelease skip ahead + rs3_release) anymore, now rs3 is official, the normal Fast & Slow ring will be the channel for receiving IP builds from now on.
     
  15. armond

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    So, any thought? I am sorry but I have suspect about DISM's ability to edit ESD files at all? I think this only applies to WIM files.
     
  16. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    hi. Anyone try the emoji in this build ?
    This build work great in my PC.
    The emoji not work in edit message.
     
  17. cuteee

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    #799 cuteee, Oct 9, 2017
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    Now the emoji works :
    Not work.
     
  18. kewkie

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    Thanks for providing all the infos here!

    Barerly did anything with uup, edu and converting this stuff afterwards in the past (I think once?), you guys have ALL the infos you need, the only problem you may face: Reading (and probably understand what you read.....).
    The issues I faced were on my end and all are fixed. Running enterprise x64 and used @s1ave77 JATD Tool to activate Windows and office 2016 (Needed to convert it, but its working - and thats what matters).

    I haven't faced any issues so far, games are running smooth, no crashes/bsod's/whatsoever.

    Running it on a 4 years old MSI GT70 Laptop were drivers on the MSI site itself are only provided for Windows 8(.1), but yet they are working under Windows10 itself, so no driver issues aswell (Some specific things, Chipset and GPU drivers are downloaded and installed from vendors site itself).