1. TairikuOkami

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    #3882 rayleigh_otter, Jun 28, 2019
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    That suprises me but its totally understandable considering how much logging and space hogging windows does. I went through a stage back when i was using a hdd for the os and i would put all my programs onto a usb key and i was amazed at how fast even Nero 8 would start up :eek: I am considering going back to that. I killed a Crucial BX500 120gb drive in a year, down to 18% health.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. He must be using SSD reliability information from the early days and discounting up to date information on the measurable improvements in NAND densities and reliability that have brought the cost to gigabyte ratio down to on par or exceeding levels to mechanical HDD's which are in fact more likely to fail due to moving parts.
     
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  5. MrMagic

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    Not really, I could kill a car in a year if I drove everywhere with my foot to the floor, or it could last 20 years if I looked after it

    HDD would fail long before with the same load

    And obviously with any hardware you get the odd thing that fails due to whatever reason, where the rest of the same line all work flawlessly for years

    SSDs are cheap and reliable and fast, no reason to say otherwise
     
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    Got the new .207 CU and I'm not in Windows Insider Program.
     
  7. bonesz

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    it has since been released to WU offered to everyone.
     
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  8. luzea

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    It was only in Release Preview Ring.
     
  9. toyo

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    As somebody that's quite preoccupied/paranoid with SSD lifetime (had some fail on me 5-10 years ago), I can tell you that not only they got much better and reliable, but you can contribute to extending their lifetime considerably. It's worth it just for the boot times IMO - in my case, it cuts a cold reboot from 45s or so to 10s - and it's not even a NVME drive. Also my experience (monitoring daily writes to SSD) is that the browser is a HUGE drain. So I basically moved the Profile folder to a HDD, that was minus 20GB-30GB of writes/day, most of it youtube I guess. The OS and my apps typically write around 5-8GB/day. In almost 2 years of usage, only 1% of my 850 EVO's life was "consumed" like this. If you have games that are often patched, lets's say a Steam or Bnet library, it will also contribute to a lot of writing.

    Second, you can give the SSD some extra reserves by setting overprovisioning. I left +10% unpartitioned space to mine.

    Third, they get cheaper and cheaper, so it's easy to replace failed ones.

    I think it's worth the extra effort. Even when the SSD firmware thinks its lifetime expired, tests show that it will continue to last for a good while.
     
  10. S_SubZero

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    I think if you name any device or product ever offered in the history of the universe, you'll find one of them failed and the person stuck with it was extremely vocal about how awful and terrible and avoid it and I'd rather eat brussel sprouts than use that garbage meanwhile 99.35% of the populace have zero issues.
     
  11. Enthousiast

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    It was released publicly at the 26. of June.
     
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    The 8350/70 are still good all rounder CPUs, even though they're kinda power hungry. I kept mine and have it in another room, with a very old HD4850 videocard from 2008 and one of those beefier motherboards that can handle the spicy 125W. Windows 10 1903 working. It kinda fills the 512MB of VRAM, but even like that, you can browse, play video, play older games, no biggie.
     
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    It was pushed to WU for all the next day :)
     
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    #3898 TairikuOkami, Jun 29, 2019
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    That depends, what you consider performance, loading times is not perfomance for me. SSD does not improve FPS in games, quite the opposite sometimes, probably becasue its driver uses more CPU. Games preload into pagefile, so that causes hanging on HDD, disabling is the way go, so the game would use RAM instead. Not to mention ramdisk for high-disk operation software. I have browser installed in it, way faster and more reliable than SSD (unlimited writes, unlike cheap SSD).
    It seems, that you don know a lot about SSD either, for example that even they can be very loud. I am someone, who does not fall for marketing. Cheap SSD will not last for 20 years, unlike HDD, yet people seem to confuse the latter. :)
     
  15. MrMagic

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    #3899 MrMagic, Jun 29, 2019
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    You really need to read/watch/learn every single thing you can about SSDs, of course they do not improve FPS, they are a drive not a GPU

    And SSDs are not loud, they are 100% silent, you know why? Because they have NO moving parts

    Do flash drives make a noise? No, same as SSD

    Honestly my friend, you should stop now, until you have owned/used an SSD you need to stop guessing

    They improve overall system response, windows performance, program opening times, install times, access times, transfer rates

    Obviously they will not improve gaming performance other than possibly how quickly the game loads in the first place, and subsequent loading times, texture streaming maybe, but they do not improve your CPU or GPU so actual gaming will depend on what hardware you have

    They are a drive, get that into your head, what does a drive do? It holds data, how quickly your machine can access that data depends how fast your drive is (Among other things), SSDs make that MUCH faster than HDD
     
  16. luzea

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    Oh lol