1. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    I understand I thought it had something to do with all of this new changes.
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    What changes? And LTSC doesn't have changes, that's why it's LTSC :D
     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Updated the OP with new 18362/3.418 SSU/CU, DU for Sources and a new 1909 EP (plus renaming scripts).
     
  4. donmiller

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    #5804 donmiller, Oct 9, 2019
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    There is a transition path from 18362.10022 (1903) to 18363.418 (1909).

    18362.10022--->18362.356+kb4517245+kb4521863+kb4517389=18363.418

    1) Backup your existing Windows 10 instllation. Preferably make a clone.

    2) Disconnect from the internet.

    3) Using the 1903 V2 ISO, perform an in-place Windows 10 DOWNGRADE from 18362.10022 to 18362.356. This means that you must first boot into windows and then have a DVD or bootable USB with Windows 10 1903 (18362.356) on it. Insert the DVD or USB and run the Setup.exe on the DVD or USB. Run the in-place downgrade to completion.

    4) Re-activate Windows 10 using KMS_VL_ALL

    5) Put these updates into the root directory of your C: drive.
    windows10.0-kb4517245-x64.cab
    windows10.0-kb4521863-x64.cab
    windows10.0-kb4517389-x64.cab

    6) Using DISM, install the latest enablement update kb4517245. This changes the build from 18362.356 to 18363.356 and changes the update ring from the Slow Ring to the Release-Preview Ring. At a command prompt window, run the following command:
    DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:C:\windows10.0-kb4517245-x64.cab

    7) Re-activate Windows 10 using KMS_VL_ALL

    8) Install the latest Servicing Stack Update (SSU):
    DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:C:\windows10.0-kb4521863-x64.cab

    9) Install the latest Cumulative Update (CU):
    DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:C:\windows10.0-kb4517389-x64.cab

    The result is 18363.418

    It is very time consuming, but you shouldn't have to reinstall programs. You will lose registry tweaks and may need to reinstall drivers. You will have a Windows.Old directory. But this should transition you from 18362.10022 to 18363.418.

    If it doesn't work, then re-deploy the backup you made in Step 1).

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  5. maddogster

    maddogster MDL Senior Member

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    above is not 1909 just 1909 in sheeps clothing no different than 10022 which i will stay with for now with the many issues of 1903 last few patches mess :)
     
  6. Enthousiast

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  7. Chigz_

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    #5807 Chigz_, Oct 9, 2019
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    Updated my PC to 1909 through RP Insider ring this morning from 1903 Retail after the CU the came out yesterday.

    As a note here; it didn't download anything, after clicking Download and Install 1909 in Windows Update, and instead went straight to install in the progress percentage and asked to restart after a couple of minutes.

    -

    As for changes...

    Honestly, i can't tell what's new other than Explorer looking a little different and my PC feeling a little bit snappier - though this may be placebo.

    Edit: some notification changes here and calendar too
     
  8. cuteee

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    1903 is final version (stable). 1909 is only beta version.
     
  9. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    That is for the RP Ring. The question is what will Microsoft do with the Slow Ring which has not been updated yet from 18362.10022
     
  10. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    They're both the same - just different build numbers
     
  11. Chigz_

    Chigz_ MDL Novice

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    #5811 Chigz_, Oct 9, 2019
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    some comments here are stupid. yawn.. the Insider Programme is pretty self explanatory... not even sure why im responding.

    My guess would be that both fast and slow are combined, one gets the 20H1 on a monthly basis (slow) and the the other gets weekly (fast).

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    edit:fixed typos
     
  12. 600415

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    #5812 600415, Oct 9, 2019
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    they can't combine fast and slow, fast has actual new 20H1 builds while slow has 19H2 preview updates/servicepacks for 18362
    users were joining slow for 19H@ with the expectation that the final build will also be offered as a service pack
    what they can do (and probably will), is combine production, rp and slow under 18362/3.100XX
    Or possibly (because enterprise agreements) systems with KB4517245 will be getting .10XXX patches while those without get sub-.10000 patches
     
  13. yomoma2

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    Oh well, on a VM with 1909 18363.418 installed, running the setup of an iso with the same version still doesn't allow to keep files and apps (only "Nothing" is available) when doing an in-place upgrade.
     
  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    On 18363 you can't inplace upgrade with keeping all files and apps*, but from 18362 > 18363 you can upgrade using a 18363.32x+ ISO.

    *https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...pc-19h1-2-release.79259/page-274#post-1551221
     
  15. yomoma2

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    #5816 yomoma2, Oct 9, 2019
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    Yes, the option to keep stuff was present when using the same 18363.418* iso on a 18362.418 system. I was just checking if there was any change to the situation you've previously reported.

    *made via uupdump
     
  16. donmiller

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    #5817 donmiller, Oct 10, 2019
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    Sorry, but the procedure I provided is just one of several that can transition you to a genuine version of 1909. Many of these procedures are simply performing an inplace re-install of Windows 10. As long as the resulting build number and service pack number are less than 18363.418, one can usually transition to 18363.418. The update (Release-Preview) ring is correct. You can run an sfc /scannow or a DISM image repair and it's going to be genuine 1909.
     
  17. tistou77

    tistou77 MDL Expert

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    Hello

    I have the address bar (and search bar) in the explorer which is more "wide" with the 18363

    18362 :

    18362.PNG

    18363 :

    18363.PNG


    Is it a bug of the 18363 or a new feature really not beautiful ?

    Thanks
     
  18. ananhaid

    ananhaid MDL Member

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    me too

    but wide looks like comfortable.
     
  19. panosxidis

    panosxidis MDL Senior Member

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    Guys if Official iso 19h2 comes out the Number is 18363 or will it change?