1. donmiller

    donmiller MDL Addicted

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    I'm seeing that MS has released a KB4529943 Unified Update Platform (UUP) update for v1903 (18362.XXX). Since 1903 and 1909 have shared service pack updates, I'm wondering if this one should be applied to v1909 18363.449 and what the impact will be. Comments are welcome.
     
  2. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    It can, not should for both

    it's just a separate update for Windows Update components
    probably to fix unforseen issue, (e.g. deferral settings UI)
     
  3. AeonX

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    I currently use 1809 LTSC with Cortana removed. This and the Store do not miss me I use StartisBack for search in start menu and shell search is still working via windows explorer. But in 1903/1909 it seems that things are changing with Cortana at least but it is still safe to disable it. See NTLite changelog:

    "Win10 1909 Cortana added to ‘Shell Search’ compatibility, disable instead until the Search/Cortana split in 20H1"
     
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  4. AeonX

    AeonX MDL Addicted

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    Anything that depends on the common sense of the user will generate it even tweaks. Anyone who wants to tweak or chopping has to know how to solve problems on their own.
     
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  5. Windows 10 User

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    #6807 Windows 10 User, Nov 8, 2019
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    Is it possible to only integrate the EP to a 18362.1 image without having to integrate a SSU and/or a CU too? I tried integrating only the EP to a 18362.1 image with NTLite and it didn't let me. I had to integrate a SSU (I used the latest at the time) not to have an error message.
     
  6. Enthousiast

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    Never tried it without the other needed updates, but expecting to get a build mismatch error, because at the least the .32x ssu is needed to be integrated before the EP.
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    @Windows 10 User as expected:
    Code:
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    1. Target (x64): "j:\W10UI\18362.1_Work_x64_US"
    
    2. Updates: "j:\W10UI\18362.1_Updates_x64_1909_Test" (containing the EP only)
    
    3. DISM: "Windows 10 ADK"
    
    4. Enable .NET 3.5: NO
    
    5. Cleanup System Image: NO
    
    7. Update WinRE.wim: YES
    
    8. Install.wim selected indexes: 1 / K. Keep indexes: Selected
    
    M. Mount Directory: "J:\W10UImount_31337"
    
    E. Extraction Directory: "J:\W10UItemp_31337"
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    0. Start the process
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    Change a menu option, press 0 to start, or 9 to exit:
    Code:
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    Running W10UI v7.4
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    ============================================================
    Extracting files from update cabinets (.cab)
    *** This will require some disk space, please be patient ***
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    1/1: windows10.0-kb4517245-x64_1909_Enablement_Packagezz_387.cab
    
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    Mounting install.wim - index 1/2
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Mounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
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    Checking Updates...
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    ============================================================
    Installing updates...
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.18362.1
    
    An error occurred trying to open - J:\W10UItemp_31337\windows10.0-kb4517245-x64_1909_Enablement_Packagezz_387\update.mum Error: 0x800f0823
    The specified package cannot be added to this Windows Image due to a version mismatch.
    Update the Windows image and try the operation again.
    
    Error: 0x800f0823
    
    The specified package cannot be added to this Windows Image due to a version mismatch.
    Update the Windows image and try the operation again.
    
    The DISM log file can be found at C:\WINDOWS\Logs\DISM\dism.log
    
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
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    Mounting image
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  8. Windows 10 User

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    Well, but in that case I'd still "have" to keep on updating this image with the latest SSUs when they're released which is a little annoying (I chose to only integrate the latest CUs and SSUs or not to integrate any of them) so it may be better to wait for 20H1.
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Best is to always start integrating updates with an image that has no pre-integrated updates anyway.

    Or just install the image without any updates in (18362.1) and let WU do the job or do the updates manually online.

    Or just install any 18363.32x+ ISO and install the updates by WU or manually.
     
  10. Windows 10 User

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    I know it may not be recommended but how can I prevent Windows 10 from automatically create restore points? And even so, I guess they would be created anyway when installing a program or in other occasions.
     
  11. spedia

    spedia MDL Senior Member

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    I had plenty of problems with Language Pack installation after integrating updates from .1 Don't know what the issue was, too time consuming to find out. Starting from .32 solved it for me
     
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  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #6818 Enthousiast, Nov 8, 2019
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    (OP)
    EP is the 1909 Enablement Package, not a LP;)

    LP's are made to be integrated in .1, when integrated in .30, you would need to re-integrate the CU afterwards, to update the language specific files. At the time of release of 18362.30, that was an issue, but as soon as the next CU was released it didn't matter that much anymore.

    I recently made this for @MSMG with a 18362.1 wim:
    Code:
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    Prepare work directories
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    Detect language packs details
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    ar-SA: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    ar-SA: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    bg-BG: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    bg-BG: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    cs-CZ: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    cs-CZ: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    da-DK: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    da-DK: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    de-DE: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    de-DE: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    el-GR: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    el-GR: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    en-GB: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    en-GB: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    es-ES: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    es-ES: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    es-MX: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    es-MX: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    et-EE: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    et-EE: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    fi-FI: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    fi-FI: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    fr-CA: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    fr-CA: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    fr-FR: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    fr-FR: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    he-IL: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    he-IL: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    hr-HR: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    hr-HR: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    hu-HU: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    hu-HU: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    it-IT: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    it-IT: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    ja-JP: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    ja-JP: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    ko-KR: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    ko-KR: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    lt-LT: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    lt-LT: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    lv-LV: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    lv-LV: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    nb-NO: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    nb-NO: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    nl-NL: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    nl-NL: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    pl-PL: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    pl-PL: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    pt-BR: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    pt-BR: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    pt-PT: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    pt-PT: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    ro-RO: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    ro-RO: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    ru-RU: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    ru-RU: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    sk-SK: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    sk-SK: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    sl-SI: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    sl-SI: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    sr-Latn-RS: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    sr-Latn-RS: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    sv-SE: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    sv-SE: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    th-TH: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    th-TH: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    tr-TR: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    tr-TR: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    uk-UA: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    uk-UA: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    zh-CN: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    zh-CN: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    zh-TW: 64-bit {x64} - 18362
    zh-TW: 32-bit {x86} - 18362
    
    ============================================================
    Detect install.wim details
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    Build: 18362
    Count: 4 Image(s)
    Arch : Multi
    
    ============================================================
    Extract language packs
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    ar-SA / 64-bit
    ar-SA / 32-bit
    bg-BG / 64-bit
    bg-BG / 32-bit
    cs-CZ / 64-bit
    cs-CZ / 32-bit
    da-DK / 64-bit
    da-DK / 32-bit
    de-DE / 64-bit
    de-DE / 32-bit
    el-GR / 64-bit
    el-GR / 32-bit
    en-GB / 64-bit
    en-GB / 32-bit
    es-ES / 64-bit
    es-ES / 32-bit
    es-MX / 64-bit
    es-MX / 32-bit
    et-EE / 64-bit
    et-EE / 32-bit
    fi-FI / 64-bit
    fi-FI / 32-bit
    fr-CA / 64-bit
    fr-CA / 32-bit
    fr-FR / 64-bit
    fr-FR / 32-bit
    he-IL / 64-bit
    he-IL / 32-bit
    hr-HR / 64-bit
    hr-HR / 32-bit
    hu-HU / 64-bit
    hu-HU / 32-bit
    it-IT / 64-bit
    it-IT / 32-bit
    ja-JP / 64-bit
    ja-JP / 32-bit
    ko-KR / 64-bit
    ko-KR / 32-bit
    lt-LT / 64-bit
    lt-LT / 32-bit
    lv-LV / 64-bit
    lv-LV / 32-bit
    nb-NO / 64-bit
    nb-NO / 32-bit
    nl-NL / 64-bit
    nl-NL / 32-bit
    pl-PL / 64-bit
    pl-PL / 32-bit
    pt-BR / 64-bit
    pt-BR / 32-bit
    pt-PT / 64-bit
    pt-PT / 32-bit
    ro-RO / 64-bit
    ro-RO / 32-bit
    ru-RU / 64-bit
    ru-RU / 32-bit
    sk-SK / 64-bit
    sk-SK / 32-bit
    sl-SI / 64-bit
    sl-SI / 32-bit
    sr-Latn-RS / 64-bit
    sr-Latn-RS / 32-bit
    sv-SE / 64-bit
    sv-SE / 32-bit
    th-TH / 64-bit
    th-TH / 32-bit
    tr-TR / 64-bit
    tr-TR / 32-bit
    uk-UA / 64-bit
    uk-UA / 32-bit
    zh-CN / 64-bit
    zh-CN / 32-bit
    zh-TW / 64-bit
    zh-TW / 32-bit
    
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    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
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    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.18362.1
    
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    Best is to first integrate the LP in the base wim (18362.1) and next the updates.
     
  14. spedia

    spedia MDL Senior Member

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    Don't know what you mean by EP / LP. You tend to read me out of context.

    Whatever happened, happened a few months ago and led to some hair pulling. Don't want to revisit the topic and not curious enough.