1. AeonX

    AeonX MDL Addicted

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    Yes using the existing build from the same time that the hardware will probably run better but not necessarily.
    If the hardware is powerful enough a newer build may run better. So it is important for everyone to test for themselves.

    Versions 1507 or 1607 run better on weak hardware because they have fewer processes running in the background by default and lighter processes.
    LTSB 2015 or 2016 are based on these builds so they are lighter.

    LTSC 2019 is based on version 1809 and is slightly heavier than LTSB 2015/2016.
    Comparing the performance in VM I found version 1909 a little faster than LTSC 2019 even though it has more apps and features.
    I noticed few apps or almost none running in the background so it looks like they optimized it.

    For those who don't like bloatware I believe that version 1909 with apps removed and tweaks should be the best option :)
     
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  2. Windows_Addict

    Windows_Addict MDL Expert

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    I agree with all those who are saying that older windows versions are a better option for the older/weak machines.

    To see such difference one have to use an old and weak machine and test windows in VB/VM so that we get even less processing power.
    Install and test various windows version and you will see that earlier versions are smooth to install and operate but later versions are heavy and the whole experience is quite laggy.
    I find that windows 7-8.1, windows 10 1507, 1607 are quite smooth compared to the latest windows 10 versions, and smoothness decreases as the build number increases.

    The argument that various versions perform almost the same on benchmark tests, thus experience across all those versions would be same, is not correct because windows 7 and windows 10 also performs almost same in benchmark tests (may differ depending upon scenarios), hence using windows 10 on 12-14 years old machine, would give the same experience as using windows 7, which is obviously not correct.
     
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  3. Enthousiast

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    The test i did was in the 2016 LTSB era, i ran benchmarks on all 1607 SKUs, including LTSB, on the same hardware and there was no significant difference, seemed more scientific then "i feel it's faster" etcetc...;)
     
  4. Windows_Addict

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    Agree that sku doesn't make difference but builds do. By experiencing smoothness I mean, the response rate of opening explorer/settings/apps etc, that is clearly noticeable if the machine is weak enough.
     
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  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    On my wife's Asus T100TA (oem 32bit 8.1 installed) from about 7 years ago, ran 8.1 and i started upgrading it to 10 about 5 years ago and now it runs 1909 and can't say it shows any (more) lag then on the first 10 it got. And my wife never nagged about it becoming slow, during the years (she uses it for playing many store games:D).

    This is not a real scientific test but i sadly never ran benchmarks on it:)
     
  6. Windows_Addict

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    I've two machines which are about 12-14 years older and were budget machines at that time. I spent many years with them, (still do). When using them to test windows inside virtual box, latest windows build hangs so much that they sometimes even fail to install due to time out at oobe stage, and runs very slow when installed but older windows 10 versions work good enough that I can do basic things without freezing the system.
     
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  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I happen to have a core2duo e6420, will install 10 on it and see, last 10 on the e6420 was about 3 years ago (was my old test system) on a hdd.
     
  8. Windows_Addict

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    #7729 Windows_Addict, Apr 19, 2020
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    Sure, :)
    I've Intel Pentium E5300 with 2GB DDR2 ram,
    core2duo is good compared to it, but with 2 GB ram, I guess the results should almost match.
    btw just to be sure, I'm talking about testing windows in Virtualbox, not directly in those machines. (all tests with 32 bit windows)
     
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  9. Enthousiast

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    #7730 Enthousiast, Apr 19, 2020
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    I also found a intel 2100 with 2GB ram, ran 10 fine too when i got it, will set it up tomorrow, i was going to use it as htpc but got a nice dell latitude i7 laptop for that, from a friend :D

    Testing in vb? vb running on the old hardware? I thougt this was about actually running windows on ancient hardware.
     
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  11. Windows_Addict

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    Yes, testing in VB inside those old hardwares as mentioned in my initial post here.

    Install windows 10 1507 and 1809 and you will find the smoothness difference is pretty huge.

    This is to clearly show that newer builds are heavy and take more resources and if anyone looking to make the best out of older hardware should prioritize older builds.
     
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  12. ashish1989

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    #7733 ashish1989, Apr 19, 2020
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    Kindly check this, these problems are faced by me today
    upload_2020-4-19_12-27-32.png
    Just copying a 9kb file from downloads folder to C drive this comes
    upload_2020-4-19_12-35-20.png
     
  13. Why don’t you click on „Continue“?
     
  14. ashish1989

    ashish1989 MDL Addicted

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    Ya I clicked on continue and is working well
    But my question is why this popup of administrator permission is coming when I am the administrator myself
     
  15. Windows_Addict

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    #7737 Windows_Addict, Apr 19, 2020
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    C drive root is protected by default and requires admin rights in copy-to, move, rename etc.
     
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  16. qwesta

    qwesta MDL Senior Member

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    Can't get what these members are always asking
    is he sure, he can use a computer?
     
  17. bfoos

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    Really dude, I've been watching your posts about this crap and have kept quiet as the solution isn't ideal and is generally frowned upon in this day and age. The root of C:\ is protected and separated from userspace. But ONLY IF UAC IS ENABLED. I haven't offered any advise because I don't believe that you are capable of running a Windows system with no admin approval mode. But now I'm sitting here drinking my morning coffee after having my morning chat with my lady and I'm feeling that you will not go away until you get what you are looking for. So the solution is to disable UAC. And that doesn't mean just moving the slider all the way down. You'll need to actually disable it. I say again though that this is not an ideal solution and I have never recommended that anyone do this before, even though I don't use UAC either and never have. Congrats, bro! You broke me! Have it YOUR way!
     
  18. qwesta

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    One couldn't put this in a better way.
    His posts are all but crXXX, it pains my eyes to read and see, sorry, but it is a fact