1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  2. Angela Pszbor

    Angela Pszbor MDL Member

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    Hi I need a advice for the gurus
    I have a notebook that has with windows 10 pro but I dont like of bloatwares that this version install
    Which is better?
    Windows 10 Enterprise or Windows LTSC?

    Thank you
     
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    #7724 LittlePro, Apr 18, 2020
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    I am not a guru but I have been observing them. In one line they prefer Win 10 Education / Enterprise over LTSC.
    LTSC /LTSB are preferred on machines which are old & weak in specs. Education & Enterprise take a middle path & bring goods of both worlds : Performance & New features.

    Though the title may / may not suit you, just go through what everybody has to say : https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/is-there-any-way-to-make-windows-10-perform-like-7.81439/

    Thanks. ...
     
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  5. luzea

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    Home and Pro have the same performance as Education / Enterprise. I prefer using Enterprise because you have the most control over your device. (More than in Home versions)
     
  6. Enthousiast

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    In the fantasy of those who claim that, there is not much difference in performance between all the different sku's when benchmarked.
     
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    19h1 and 19h2 best builds of windows 10 i guess, stability wise.
     
  8. LittlePro

    LittlePro MDL Senior Member

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    1.
    I appreciate the feedback because I always thought why seniors prefer Education / Enterprise over Home / pro.

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    There is a clear reason that LTSB 2015 / 2016 are faster & lighter than a supported Home / Pro version on an old device because they were designed for those devices somewhere in the mind. Isn't it ?

    3. The question still not answered :

    Thanks. ...
     
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  9. Enthousiast

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    LTSB/C is designed for volume users to run it on their office devices, not having distracting UWP apps, edge, store, cortana, uwp apps, no bi-annual feature updates, etcetc..

    It was promoted in the beginning for running it on specific devices, like ATMs and other task specific devices, not for older devices. the core is exactly the same as 1607 home/pro/etcetc...

    About 3, enterprise has almost the same (if not exactly the same), what you call bloatware, stuff that doesn't do anything, good or bad, if you don't run it. Education has less uwp apps by default, iirc (search for posts about it by @BAU.
     
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  10. Angela Pszbor

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    Hi I install Windows 10 Enterprise 20H1 and i can not find the windows to go
    It only have change options o inicialization of windows to go but not the tool
    How can I create a bootable windows with windows to go?
     
  11. AeonX

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    Considering Windows without modifications if you want less bloatware there is no other option than LTSC 2019 or LTSB 2016.
    All other editions are almost the same in terms of apps and features by default.

    With Enterprise or Education you have more control over telemetry using group policy than with Pro.
    Windows Update control is the same between Enterprise/Education or Pro using group policy.
    Home is the most limited edition because it does not have a group policy editor and is said not to obey the tweaks to disable Windows Update.
     
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    Yes using the existing build from the same time that the hardware will probably run better but not necessarily.
    If the hardware is powerful enough a newer build may run better. So it is important for everyone to test for themselves.

    Versions 1507 or 1607 run better on weak hardware because they have fewer processes running in the background by default and lighter processes.
    LTSB 2015 or 2016 are based on these builds so they are lighter.

    LTSC 2019 is based on version 1809 and is slightly heavier than LTSB 2015/2016.
    Comparing the performance in VM I found version 1909 a little faster than LTSC 2019 even though it has more apps and features.
    I noticed few apps or almost none running in the background so it looks like they optimized it.

    For those who don't like bloatware I believe that version 1909 with apps removed and tweaks should be the best option :)
     
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    I agree with all those who are saying that older windows versions are a better option for the older/weak machines.

    To see such difference one have to use an old and weak machine and test windows in VB/VM so that we get even less processing power.
    Install and test various windows version and you will see that earlier versions are smooth to install and operate but later versions are heavy and the whole experience is quite laggy.
    I find that windows 7-8.1, windows 10 1507, 1607 are quite smooth compared to the latest windows 10 versions, and smoothness decreases as the build number increases.

    The argument that various versions perform almost the same on benchmark tests, thus experience across all those versions would be same, is not correct because windows 7 and windows 10 also performs almost same in benchmark tests (may differ depending upon scenarios), hence using windows 10 on 12-14 years old machine, would give the same experience as using windows 7, which is obviously not correct.
     
  15. Enthousiast

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    The test i did was in the 2016 LTSB era, i ran benchmarks on all 1607 SKUs, including LTSB, on the same hardware and there was no significant difference, seemed more scientific then "i feel it's faster" etcetc...;)
     
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    Agree that sku doesn't make difference but builds do. By experiencing smoothness I mean, the response rate of opening explorer/settings/apps etc, that is clearly noticeable if the machine is weak enough.
     
  17. Enthousiast

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    On my wife's Asus T100TA (oem 32bit 8.1 installed) from about 7 years ago, ran 8.1 and i started upgrading it to 10 about 5 years ago and now it runs 1909 and can't say it shows any (more) lag then on the first 10 it got. And my wife never nagged about it becoming slow, during the years (she uses it for playing many store games:D).

    This is not a real scientific test but i sadly never ran benchmarks on it:)
     
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    I've two machines which are about 12-14 years older and were budget machines at that time. I spent many years with them, (still do). When using them to test windows inside virtual box, latest windows build hangs so much that they sometimes even fail to install due to time out at oobe stage, and runs very slow when installed but older windows 10 versions work good enough that I can do basic things without freezing the system.
     
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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I happen to have a core2duo e6420, will install 10 on it and see, last 10 on the e6420 was about 3 years ago (was my old test system) on a hdd.
     
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